Sony is going to remove certain purchased titles from user libraries

As always, the paying user has the worst experience. “Purchase” a show, can only watch on a certain console of a certain brand, no transfers, no backups, then it suddenly disappears from the library and nothing can be done.

If media companies insist on draconian DRM, then they should pay for full refunds to their loyal customers when one day they decide to delist that specific show.

metaStatic,

if buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing

DebatableRaccoon,

Fairer words have never been spoken

aldalire,

I wish u could retweet a lemmy comment. Well said.

metaStatic,

welcome to the fediverse. Boost = retweet ;)

cupcakezealot,
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technically you can since lemmy, kbin, and mastodon all use activitypub :P

aldalire,

How tho. I use the Voyager app for Lemmy (iOS)

JokeDeity,

The Voyager community (I use it too), JUST had a post from the developer that he added a feature to post comments as pictures, but I don’t actually know how to do it.

Septimaeus,
JokeDeity,

Niiiice, thank you!

anothermember,

Not within Lemmy, but if you were on, for example, a federated Mastodon instance it’s perfectly possible to boost that comment that would appear like a retweet to Mastodon users.

cupcakezealot,
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you can technically follow lemmy users in mastodon. in megalodon (or whatever your client is), just search for the lemmy handle. their posts are toots and their comments are replies

spader312,

Mind = blown, I didn’t know Lemmy could talk to mastadon

Untitled_Pribor,
Untitled_Pribor avatar

You can on /kbin

netchami,
Tygr,

If I’m to believe I own the crap I buy that’s digital delivery, then if they want to take it back, they need to buy it from me at my price.

DeathWearsANecktie,

Fucking assholes. This is why piracy is justifiable, and in some cases, even necessary.

ColeSloth,

Like… They’re straight up taking it back? No refunding? That is so asinine.

linearchaos,
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“We sincerely thank you for your continued support.”

Not only are they not refunding, They seem to think you might purchase something else from them in the future.

MindSkipperBro12,

Because most people will still continue to buy things.

ColeSloth,

And idiots will do it, too.

dRLY,
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Even Google was giving people full refunds for all games that were bought on Stadia when they gave up on that. I can’t imagine that the total refunds would even be that bad for Sony given the increases they made for PSN prices. Would at least come across as at least pretending to “do right” to keep some level of trust from the people that have been buying non-game media from them. It would all be just a PR thing with some loss of current money for future money. Maybe even just offer a free amount of credit for getting some shows/movies from the Sony owned studios.

But since Sony is currently the number one, they will keep on their fuck shit until Microsoft or Nintendo are able to pull some big push. Playstation really only does kind of cool shit for customers when they aren’t in the lead.

ColeSloth,

Just FYI: there’s been about 45 million PS5’s sold to date. There’s been over 130 million Switch’s sold. PS4 sold 117 million during its total run.

They’re in the lead against Xbox. They don’t really cross paths with Nintendo. Different demographic, sort of.

MisterFrog,
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You can bet Australian users will be entitled to a refund, should they be affected.

Similar to how “no refunds” didn’t fly with steam in cases where people are entitled to a refund under Australian Consumer Law.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

That list of shows that’s being removed is huge too.

God I hope people reconsider purchasing products from companies that do these kind of things to them.

At some point you think if they get smacked up the side of their heads enough times that they will actually wake up and do something about it.

KpochMX,

This is why i hate digital only and no more game disc, also battlepass and dlc.

you own nothing but pays the full price for the permission to play and they cant remove access at any time.-

Marvel vs capcom 2 its my favorite game and they removed from store, i know is about licensing but they will not come to my house for the DVD Disc right?

ipkpjersi,

This has actually always been my reason for piracy. I’ve always been able to afford games, thankfully, so I’ve used piracy as a means of demoing games as demos became more and more rare and more commonly and more importantly I’ve used piracy as a means of preserving games. I have no problems paying for a game if I can also keep it indefinitely and play it forever, and thanks to piracy that is actually possible.

cobra89,

Did anyone actually read the link? Everyone in the thread is talking like they pulled video games. They literally only pulled Disney TV content from like 20 years ago. Now of course that’s still crappy but stuff like this has happened for TV content before and it won’t be the last time this happens.

We can freak out when they actually do this to video games and not some 20 year old awful reality TV content no one watched anyway.

conciselyverbose,

Nobody is mentioning TV Show vs video game because there is no difference.

Taking away any content a user has paid for is unacceptable without a full refund at absolute minimum.

Chinzon,

The point is if they do it for this there is no reason they wouldn’t do it to other forms of media. Youre either introducing a strawman argument or missing the point

Stovetop,

On the one hand, I sympathize with anyone losing access to How It’s Made and Mythbusters. But for everything else on that list, that money was already thrown away for no good reason. I’d like to hope the audiences were small or non-existent to begin with.

Sony is doing the world a favor by purging most of that garbage from their service, to be perfectly honest.

Blue_Morpho, (edited )

This won’t change until someone sells a yacht to a Senator with fine print that it’s only a perpetual license. Then comes back 3 years later and takes the yacht citing the fine print in the contract.

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Alright, what this looks like is Sony’s deal with Discovery to sell and host their TV shows has been removed. From my quick glance there are no games being removed.

Still is BS, and beyond ridiculous. But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.

I am more pissed that I got informed that they are doing this from here instead of being told that I am losing my Myth Busters.

madcaesar,

But it was inevitably going to happen at some point.

If you believed this, wtf would you ever give them your money to begin with???

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Because it was 2009, I was I kid, and I saw Mythbusters and I said yes. I learnt my lesson when they remove PlayStation Video years ago from PS3, and the PSP. I didn’t even know I could re-download it until I stumbled upon it in a menu years later.

I am just hoping and praying that this will not extend to their games. Sony’s been pretty good about game ownership to this point, look at those who bought the PT Demo and can still play it.

madcaesar,

Ok fair enough.

Blackmist,

Scrolling through the list I can’t believe that people actually watch that shit, let alone pay for it.

It’s all the kind of crap that people leave used to leave on in the background and to get bombarded with 4 sets of adverts an hour. The direct result of needing to fill 200 channels as cheaply as possible.

Refunding everyone would probably cost Sony less than a million. I’d wager some of those shows nobody has ever purchased.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

You don’t like it which is fine but no need to call out people who do. My dad loves deadliest catch and has been watching it for years, he records it and then fast forwards through the ad breaks something that’s been around 10 years now.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Deadly Dentists didn’t get good until season 2 anyway.

radioactiveradio,

Now THAT is stealing.

DrQuint,

sony is going to steal

netchami,
TheLobotomist,

Cool tattoo idea!

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