But given his court appearance Thursday, just funny how he’d start joking about this. I wonder if he actually would, and what would follow. I mean, how would he try to spin it?
If bail is supposed to be a disincentive to flee, what effect is $200k supposed to have on a “billionaire”? A pauper would get that high a bond in this case, and no pauper has access to a private jet.
We need Swedish day fine systems for all levels of government.
If a fine costs a month's wages for someone working minimum wage, it should scale up and still cost a month's wages for people who earn more.
That said, cash bail is an incredibly stupid system. If someone is a flight risk, put an anklet on them. If there's a sincere belief they may flee the jurisdiction, then they need to be deprived of their freedom to travel. And if they aren't any kind of flight risk get them the fuck out of jail. The punishment should not precede the trial.
We have the same system in Finland, and it also accounts for income for capital gains. It does not, however consider assets or the increase of value in assets except during years when assets are sold (when the increase in value is converted to income).
Still, a better system than fixed fines.
We don’t have the concept of cash bail and suspects and convicts do occasionally flee. It does mean their belligerence is no longer a direct threat to our society, which is something.
If his freedom is on the line he would flee. As for properties, he doesn’t need to sell them immediately or I don’t think he even need to sell them. It’s not like he is alone with it.
The Secret Service was caught treading water for him in some crimes.
Putin would promise Trump limitless wealth, a fresh new wife, and oligarch status for residence in Moscow. Trump would enjoy this status until he was no longer of use to Putin.
Nah, he would make Trump acting head of the Central Donbas Army. Promoted straight to a 3 star general. Forced to command the front line troops against the Ukrainian offensive from the trenches with an old rusty AK-47.
Is the Secret Service actually empowered to stop a former official (not in office) from doing anything? It’s my understanding former office holders can waive SS protection, so I would presume compliance with SS recommendations or orders is purely optional. Of course there’s nothing stopping SS from phoning Jack Smith to let them know Trump just boarded a plane to Moscow…
He also has SS protection which prevents him from fleeing.
Really? The same Secret Service that was told the Inspector General wanted to review all their messages around January 6, and then all the Secret Service messages for a two-day period surrounding January 6 were mysteriously deleted?
The same Secret Service that made Mike Pence sound like a Criminal Minds victim when he said: "I'm not getting in the car, Tim,” Pence said. “I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car.”
That’s… actually not a bad idea? Fleeing would solve as many problems for the country as anything. Would love to see him run to Putin or Kim or some other dictator idol; One for the history books! Unfortunately, he’ll probably need more humiliation and losing to get to that point.
Would it solve any problems though? Unless they’re set up to catch him in the act of trying to flee, he flees to a country that doesn’t extradite to the US, his supporters become even more incensed than they already are, and the GOP gets an out for whoever they pick as their candidate for the 2024 election since they’d no longer have to fight trump. The con base is now solidified under a single candidate after the primaries, and they’re galvanized against “the deep state liberal socialist commies”.
The alternative is trump staying, causing further damage to the GOP as he splits the conservative voterbase between his populism and typical republican politicians, and likely gets convicted of multiple felonies. Imo, him leaving just let’s the problem fester, while him staying likely splits the conservative vote
A person out on bail joking about fleeing the country would literally mean a direct “go to jail now” card for anyone in any western judicial system I know.
How the fuck is that not happening in the US guys? That’s absurd.
Putin doesn’t like him. He’s nothing more than a useful idiot. The only purpose he serves is to sow discord among Americans, who despite all evidence to the contrary, firmly believe that Trump is “on their side” whatever that side happens to be. Usually some batshit opinion about abortions or “the libs”.
Sure, but if he’s ineligible, then all that does is split the Republican vote and hand the election to the Democrats on a silver platter. Crisis averted.
This probably isn’t of interest in the GA indictment in which Trump is commenting about, but I’d have to imagine Jack Smith is taking notice that a criminal defendant accused of mishandling classified information is joking about flying to Russia. It’s plausible that Trump has classified information at other properties. While less plausible as Trump is a total dope, it’s technically possible he’s got classified information digitized and ready to go with him to Russia. This should be setting off alarm bells everywhere. Anyone else with four major indictments with 91 charges would have been locked up in jail by now.
“Gravy seals” belongs right next to “Y’All Qaeda” as one of those perfectly pitched nicknames that both encapsulates and decimates the right-wing freak show.
I think he’s going to pull some stunt on Thursday, but I don’t think he’ll flee. He’ll only do that if all his legal challenges fail and it looks like he’ll be convicted.
How wild that would be. Withdrawal all his campaign donations and just up and go to Russia. He could put a spin on it and make his base extremely upset and violent because the evil left forced him to flee because it’s all rigged.
They should have never allowed a bond to be set. He should have just been kept in jail until the trial. Any of us normies would have had to…
Who says he has to forfeit campaign donations? He can just have it all funneled to some Swiss bank account or Bitcoin. His followers are total morons and will gladly send whatever money they have, wherever he’s located.
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