Rapidcreek,

Florida: Where Fascism Goes to Flourish.

DigitalTraveler42,

Ron DeSantis probably has a massive amount of hours logged for the game Tropico.

Hairyblue,
Hairyblue avatar

The news article title is:

‘Fascist’ and ‘tyrant’ DeSantis under fire after removing another black elected Democratic state attorney

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

Yes, but the article puts each in quotes, meaning it’s referring to what sources have said as opposed to making the statement itself - I wanted to use similar language as to how these events get reported on in US media when they happen outside of the country.

darq,
darq avatar

I mean the problem is that "under fire" now means... Some people tutting and waggling their fingers at him?

SinningStromgald,

If the shoe fits…

III,

Technically the entire Nazi uniform fits, not just the shoes.

kboy101222,

If the Hugo Boss fits…

TrismegistusMx,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need the quotation marks.

hihellobyeoh,

I agree with what you mean, but they do need them as the easiest defense against a slander suit.

Stitch, (edited )

Public figures have higher barriers of proof for those accusations than a private individual would

TrismegistusMx,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

I’d argue in court that he’s a fascist tyrant. The precedent will be useful.

genoxidedev1,
genoxidedev1 avatar

"Your honor... look at him"

just_another_person,

“just…I mean…just LOOK at 'em”

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

Problem is so are many of the judges that would theoretically see his case. The theocratic, white ethno-project has been incubating in the United States since the 70s. Democrats are too spineless to attempt to balance the Supreme Court, and all the appointees that have been made to the lower circuits will take time to be felt - time I don’t think the US has before it risks going the way of the Weimar Republic.

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

The quotation marks are precisely why I changed the headline to something that doesn’t need quotes but is still accurate and won’t open up slander/libel.

GFGJewbacca,

This shouldn’t happen in America. And the guy who did it shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the White House," said David Rothkopf, a noted foreign policy, national security and political affairs expert and commentator.

I agree that this shouldn’t be happening, but it is. It’s a clear indication of the GOP wanting to operate as a fascist party, and this needs to be taken seriously. I hope that happens.

who8mydamnoreos,

This is what the Republicans want, to concentrate power in the hands of the executive so they had ignore the people

hauntology,

DeSantis, who is also running for president, says he is suspending Florida State Attorney Monique Worrell “for neglecting her duty to faithfully prosecute crime in her jurisdiction.”

Meatball Ron has barely stepped foot in Florida since he announced his campaign. Shouldn’t he remove himself for “negelcting his duty”?

RagingRobot,

Yeah why did he even run for that job just to immediately turn around and run for another? How is that ok?

hauntology,

There’s a law in Florida that you have to resign as governor if you want to run for president. But the republican state congress changed it just for Desantis. The state republican party is completely crooked.

teamevil,

He had the super majority change the goddamn rules just for him. Because Florida doesn’t need a governor? He is a royal Asshole

blazera,
blazera avatar

I feel like im never goin to disney world at this rate

kitonthenet,

Absolutely not, not if it’s like this, I’ll just go to the one in California instead

scytale,

I’ve never been and will probably never go. We’ll just settle with the other one in CA.

keeb420,

i really want to go to kennedy sc but not with all this crap happening in florida.

InternetUser2012,

I wanted to live in florida. I love the weather. It’s been my dream to move there and now that the kids are grown up and I have the means to move there, I don’t want anything to do with that state in its current form. It really sucks.

v_krishna,
@v_krishna@lemmy.ml avatar

Belize has basically the same weather and doesn’t suck horribly.

InternetUser2012,

I will for sure look into retiring there, but as far as working, I’m kind of stuck here. Honestly, I had no idea Belize was that beautiful.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not missing anything, WDW hasn’t been worth the price of admission since 2019. This from a former WDW Employee.

brygphilomena,

As a former Disneyland cast member, I’m very interested to see the difference between the resorts. I should do it soon before Florida does even more despicable shit.

sin_free_for_00_days,

As someone who lives near Buena Park, it seems like 80% of the people I meet worked there at some point in their life.

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been to WDW, DL, and DLP. I last went to WDW in Dec 2020. It was terrible; the way they changed the fast pass system made it far more difficult to ride the rides. The cast members did not seem to even want to be there, and honestly, the magic wasn’t there. I went to DL a year ago and it was fantastic. The cast members is in the groove, making the experience top tier, the crowds were having fun, and it was full of that Disney magic.

As for Disney Land Paris, skip it (I lived in Europe at the time). Zero magic, it felt like a six flags, no magic.

PhoenixRising,

I think the pandemic might have had an effect on your experience at WDW.

candybrie,

You went during the winter covid wave before most people could get vaccinated and were surprised workers didn’t want to be there?

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

WDW was absolutely packed. Wall to wall people. It was December 31st when we went.

PixelatedAvocado,

All the more reason for the workers to not want to be there.

BloodyFable,

I have to go to a wedding at WDW next year and I hate that I do.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

Don’t go and tell them why.

Behaviorbabe,

Same for me. I grew up in Florida and lived there for decades. I haven’t been back since 2018 and I don’t know if I ever will, which is a kind of sad feeling tbh.

teamevil,

This fucking asshole Nazi…that’s not how democracy works.

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

The American right-wing doesn’t care about Democracy. It only supports democratic institutions when the demographics benefit them. While it feels out of place, this sort of behaviour is in my view, more in line with American history than you’d think. It took the Supreme Court multiple times to get the states to follow it whenever it ruled in favour of people, rights, and freedom in the 1800s, but whenever it ruled that slaves weren’t people, those rulings were of course respected.

Rac3r4Life,

This is what fascism looks like folks.

Countmacula,

Watch a dem do the same and have every maga POS tripping over themselves to call them out.

Dems have to start fighting fire with fire.

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

They need to actually have an airtight cause to remove them - plus I am not sure if this is a Florida Governor power or if other governors have similar powers. Midwestern Dems are using their political power though, such as the new Wisconsin Democrat-controlled Supreme Court: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dfKZzOeAJs

PunnyName,

They need to, but they won’t.

Relevant Innuendo Studios: youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A

IzzyJ,

When they go low, kick

CaptainMeatshield,

They’ve gone through all the effort of putting their teeth closer to your boots, it’d be inconsiderate to not let them meet.

ramble81,

That’s a problem when you have one group trying to do what is remotely morally right and another who doesn’t care and wants to “win” at any cost.

aDuckk,

It’s also a problem when a group has most of the guns and is stupid enough to use them without thought for the consequences. Moreso when the authorities responsible for enforcing those consequences tend to be in agreement if not allegiance with the group in question.

AngryCommieKender,

I wouldn’t be so sure that they have us out armed. The majority of veterans are left leaning, and most of us kept our service sidearms and rifles.

dirtytreewhiskey,

Huh? What bullshit is that? As an actual leftist veteran I know that most veterans are not left leaning. I also know that the US military does not let you keep any sidearms or rifles with you even while you are in. That stuff gets locked up in the arms room. CIF doesn’t even let you keep your canteens when you ETS, let alone weapons.

Anticorp,

The Vietnam era vets kept a lot of guns from their tours. Stuff gets lost in wartime and they were more lenient back then.

I’m a vet too and I know lots of vets. Most of them are left leaning. Most of us have guns.

drewofdoom,

Anecdotal, but I had a roommate who was a veteran. He most definitely still had his rifle. He was also very left leaning.

nostalgicgamerz, (edited )

It’s about time we start thinking about the plan where he is removed by a “candidate” who has nothing to live for

At this rate, he can handpick the Secretary of State who can rig the governor vote in his favor and he will never lose any election

DrPop,

Like in Georgia where the secretary of state didn’t recuse themselves from the responsibility of managing the election then ran for governor. Cities get hours long waits and rural areas have no problems. Also sending voting machine to black districts without power cords.

nostalgicgamerz,

That is exactly what the fuck I was referring to Brian goddamn Kemp

like47ninjas,

I agree that he’s a cancer to society and the US would be better off with him out of office.

However, “removed by a “candidate” who has nothing to live for” sounds an awful lot like advocating for violence which I absolutely disagree with.

Vote, get others to vote, advocate, protest, donate if able, and don’t give clicks to articles/platforms on fascists.

nostalgicgamerz,

Soap box

Ballot Box

And the other box

This is a…thought… if “ballot box” doesn’t work and the election is rigged

Yepthatsme,

Florida is the capital of the New Confederacy that liters nobody wants. If you just stop giving money to the crooked catholic shitcunt church and the evangelical shitcunt church then we probably wouldn’t have this problem.

The state has 56 white supremacy groups. What do you think goes on down there?

FReddit,

A black, democrat, elected official.

No agenda here.

argo_yamato,

Was there even anything for him to backup removing her other than “for neglecting her duty to faithfully prosecute crime in her jurisdiction”? Sounds pretty fascist to me but that is the Republican dream isn’t it?

PaulDevonUK,
@PaulDevonUK@lemmy.world avatar

Now imagine all of America if he actually got elected POTUS in 2024.

Fortunately he is failing hard.

RubiksIsocahedron,

Must be a day ending in '‘y’.

millifoo,

How the frick is this legal?

GivingEuropeASpook,
@GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee avatar

Rubber-stamp legislature that will refuse to hear any complaints.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

When fascists take power, everything they do is legal.

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

But we still have courts in this country.

RvTV95XBeo,

Yeah, but it’s a state matter ruled on by state judges. Who do you think appointed the state judges?

_Tom_,

Surely some federal labor law could cover it.

AngrilyEatingMuffins,
AngrilyEatingMuffins avatar

Imagine thinking the feds enforce labor laws

candybrie,

Labor law? As far as the feds are concerned, you can be fired for your political opinions.

leftenddev,
@leftenddev@slrpnk.net avatar

Lol the courts that the fascists have been filling with other fascists to say that fascism is legal?

Nougat,

When they've been stacked with Federalist Society judges, are they courts, or are they "courts"?

chakan2,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

The poor people are still mostly have to abide by the court system.

chakan2,
@chakan2@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not…but unless someone actually stands up to him, it’s just another crime our politicians get away with.

PRUSSIA_x86,

More importantly, who is going to stop them?

instamat,

He will make it legal. (prequel reference, had to do it!)

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

From a CNN article:

The Florida constitution allows a governor to remove an elected official for “malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, habitual drunkenness, incompetence, or permanent inability to perform official duties.” No previous Florida executive has interpreted that power as broadly as DeSantis. The state Senate can reinstate Worrell, but the chamber is controlled by Republicans closely aligned with DeSantis and have rarely stood in his way.

Warren’s attempts at reinstatement have failed. A federal judge ruled DeSantis had acted unconstitutionally in suspending Warren, writing that there was “not a hint of misconduct by Mr. Warren” in the trial record, but he ultimately dismissed the case saying he did not have the power to intervene on a state matter. The state Supreme Court tossed Warren’s lawsuit in state court earlier this summer.

Monique Worrell was the attorney recently dismissed and Andrew Warren is the one who was dismissed last year.

Bipta,

The state Supreme Court tossed Warren’s lawsuit in state court earlier this summer.

Why the fuck? You know, besides the fascism...

Cubes,

Thank you for providing an actual answer!

kiku123,

Things like this always make me wonder if a state could legally turn into a dictatorship.

Could Florida legally change it’s constitution to say “All governing power rests entirely in Ron DeSantis” and dissolve it’s representative bodies? Obviously it would still be beholden to voters for national elections (representatives and senators), but statewide there could be nothing.

ANALHACKER_3000,

Possibly. The problem is that the founders decided to bake in armed revolt as a safe guard instead if, you know, reasonable solutions.

HighElfMage,

Technically, no. The Constitution says “the United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,” but “republican” has historically been very loosely interpreted. Technically, China and North Korea are both republics.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

According to Putin, from the Russian republic, there’s no need to hold elections if you know what the likely result will be.

Heresy_generator,
Heresy_generator avatar

They're not technically republics, they're nominally republics.

HighElfMage,

Well part of the problem is that there isn’t total agreement on what a republic is. By some definitions it’s basically anything that isn’t a monarchy. Some medieval republics didn’t have elections and instead chose their officials by sortition, which is essentially a lottery. China and North Korea do have elections, but they’re total shams (and North Korea is basically a monarchy is a thin coat of republican paint, since by law they can’t have any leader that isn’t descended from Kim Il Sung).

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