As the NRA fades, a more zealous US pro-gun group rises as a lobbying power

The GOA is an adamant enemy of gun control measures of all stripes, and proudly calls itself the “no compromise” gun lobby. Its surge in lobbying spending reflects one way it has capitalized on the financial and legal problems of the once 5 million-member NRA in the hopes of expanding the GOA’s political clout, say gun experts.

“The GOA was formed in the 1970s because they believed the NRA was too liberal,” said Robert Spitzer, the author of several books on guns and a professor emeritus at Suny Cortland in New York. “True to its creed, the GOA has opposed every manner of gun law and attacked the NRA at every turn.”

ghostdoggtv,

The right to bear arms is a liberal value. The new kids are fascist extremists.

spaceghoti,

The right to bear arms is a liberal value.

That sounds like a very archaic and irrelevant definition of “liberal.”

ghostdoggtv,

Nobody said you have to like it

spaceghoti,

Since it isn’t relevant to modern politics, it doesn’t contribute to the discussion.

ghostdoggtv,

Conservatives would love for you to think so

surewhynotlem,

You can’t seize the means of production with a strongly worded letter.

Not that I approve of seizing, ofc

kerrigan778,

Do you consider George Orwell to be archaic and irrelevant?

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Unrelated and on a lighter note, I’m about to head to the grocery store and their logo reminded me I was out of baking soda.

Arm and Hammer Logo

YoBuckStopsHere,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Millennials will push for a Consitutional Repeal of 2A before all is said and done.

Telorand,

Works for me!

spaceghoti,

It’s not like they’re being given any other choices.

anon_8675309,

Or enough of them will get brainwashed and we’ll just keep on keeping on with the status quo.

JunkMilesDavis,
JunkMilesDavis avatar

With constitutional originalism being all the rage nowadays, a person could certainly ask what sort of arms existed at the time of writing.

nicetriangle,
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I love how originalists have zero interest in playing that game wrt the 2a. Proves how full of shit they are.

billiam0202,

Also with judicial review. Courts didn’t have authority to invalidate laws until Marbury v. Madison. A true “originalist” would argue the judicial branch doesn’t have that ability.

nicetriangle,
nicetriangle avatar

I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that case before. I wonder what Thomas thinks of it.

Ranvier,

The supreme court does even have the nerve to do that when it suits them, but doesn’t give one crap about the obvious hypocrisy. The conservatives ruled recently while striking down a hundred year old gun control law in New York, that no gun regulation laws can exist unless there is proof that law or something very similar existed in the 1780’s. Well then does this mean I’m only allowed guns that existed or are very similar to what we had in the 1780’s as well? No? Ben Franklin thought I should get to open carry an AR15? Well alright then.

The whole originalist junk has always been a load of made up bullshit conservatives use to justify whatever they already decided they wanted.

nicetriangle,
nicetriangle avatar

Yeah it's self serving bullshit that doesn't hold up to scrutiny at all

babboa,

I own a musket for home defense, since that’s what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. “What the devil?” As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he’s dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it’s smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, “Tally ho lads” the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

nicetriangle, (edited )
nicetriangle avatar

That'd be nice. I've lived in the states and currently the EU and not living somewhere where there is literally more guns than there are people in the country is real nice. People aren't just getting shot all the time here. Imagine that.

captainlezbian,

Ok but what do you do in gym class if not play dodge bullet

trash80,

That is a strange conclusion to draw from the fact that this other organization is increasing in popularity because the NRA is viewed as too soft.

thisisawayoflife,

The appropriate work hasn’t been done at the state level to pave the way and that’s probably at least 20-30 years out, if ever.

We really need to scrap the current Constitution and create another one based on current known best practices. Maybe start with the 7N Bill of Human Rights (or whatever it’s called). A constitutional convention would be pretty scary given today’s political climate, though - see first paragraph.

nicetriangle,
nicetriangle avatar

Not gonna happen any time soon unfortunately.

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