Heresy_generator, (edited )
Heresy_generator avatar

He is so transparently desperate to put Haley in the rear-view mirror.

And he's already told us what he's going to do to get out of debating with Biden: He's going to insist that none of the traditional debates be held and instead they all must be Trump campaign events hosted by his sycophants rather than independently run debates. When he doesn't get his way he's going claim Biden didn't want to debate him.

cantstopthesignal,

He will only debate if Tucker Carlson is the moderator and it’s held in Moscow

themeatbridge,

Biden should agree to that, and then when Trump lands in Moscow, Biden’s not there. He just closes the borders and put his shades on from the White House.

elbarto777,

No, fuck that! I want that asshole in prison on American soil!

Edit: unless the Biden administration freezes all his assets.

Crashumbc,

What assets…

fine_sandy_bottom,

LOL I’d love to see Trump avoiding windows in Moscow.

He would be an anti-martyr. Just a stench hanging over the GOP. Not inspiring, just a criminal scared of justice getting golden showers from cheap Russian hookers.

nilloc,

Top notch democracy fan-fiction.

Son_of_dad,

The debates don’t even have to be on his turf, when CNN or whoever moderates it just let’s him say and do whatever

rayyy,

just let’s him say lie and do whatever

Zorque,

"It's great for ratings!"

Empricorn,

And who’s going to swallow that story? The same kind of people who would vote for Trump to begin with.

DogPeePoo,

Why is Trump so afraid of debating Nikki Haley first?

What a pussy he is.

Dagwood222,

Don’t forget. Back in 2016, before the Conventions, Trump challenged Bernie Sanders to a debate. Bernie jumped on the idea, and Trump ran away from his own challenge.

www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36401179

DogPeePoo,

He knew Bernie would have DESTROYED him in a debate

doctorcrimson,

The worst thing for Republican voter turnout is hearing a Bernie Sanders speech. The dude shows up in a coal miner town hall and convinces them all to vote blue.

Mnemnosyne,

It’s a shame it didn’t happen…maybe, just maybe, if Bernie had trounced Trump in a debate, there wouldn’t have been that whole Bernie is unelectable/would lose to Trump idea floating so strongly, and it might’ve given him a better chance in the primary either time.

themeatbridge,

It wouldn’t have mattered. The “unelectable” narrative was coming from the DNC leadership. Bernie was polling just fine until everyone started saying he couldn’t win.

I_Has_A_Hat,

I remember all the networks showing the number of delegates he and Hillary had, and they showed all the super delegates going to Hillary. Not only had they never shown votes like that before, but the super delegates hadn’t even voted at that point. It was all just based off the assumption that they would all vote for Hillary. Thumb on the scale.

Schadrach, (edited )

Thumb on the scale.

That’s the whole point of super delegates. The consequence in 2016 being that Hillary only needed about 30% in a given primary to “win” that state.

EDIT: Curious about the downvote. Superdelegates made up a large enough share of delegate that to win a majority of delegates for a given state she only needed about 30% of the primary vote plus the superdelegates. Do the math yourself if you’d like to confirm. Hell, I’m from a state where Clinton only got about 35% of the vote in the primary, which meant she only got one more delegate than Sanders, who had closer to 51%.

themeatbridge,

Hillary had bought their support from the beginning. She learned from 2008 that she couldn’t compete in an open field, so she wrangled all challengers before the primaries started. Sanders was the only one who couldn’t be bought.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

At this point I see debates as pointless.

There may have been a time in this country where candidate A would have this plan for healthcare, candidate B would have that plan for healthcare, candidate A calls for more trade with Europe, candidate B favors trade with Asia etc. and issues are discussed.

These days, there’s one political party and one doomsday cult. I don’t think it’s worth the bandwidth to broadcast.

gravitas_deficiency,

I’ll seriously consider debating you once - no, I’m sorry: IF - you win the Republican Primary.

Can you imagine how fucking infuriating that would be to Trump?

DogPeePoo,

I agree it would completely melt him down

Crashumbc,

This is about legitimatizing his run for president. He would never actually show up.

MrNesser,

There is no upside to Biden debating him. Trump will just spout nonsense to get sound bites

Shake747,

Biden is like Trump’s kryptonite. Trump always tries to get in the other guys head.

Can’t get in Biden’s head…Bidens not in there, good luck dude

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Sanguine,

Lmfao

techt,

That guy has the BEST impersonation I’ve ever seen, it’s repulsive! Not just the voice, but the hands, the sucking air through the teeth, the head tilts and mouth movements, all spot-on. You know how you have to wonder about the mental state of horror game/movie artists looking at reference material all day? Same feeling about Shane Gillis.

Qkall,
@Qkall@lemmy.ml avatar
rayyy,

will just spout nonsense

You spelled lies wrong

hansl,

There is a distinction between nonsense and lies though, and it’s not intent. Trump nonsense is closer to just insanity and dementia than lies. For telling lies, first you have to make sense.

BradleyUffner,

Even his lies don’t make sense at this point. They are just incoherent rambling that is indistinguishable from his “normal” incoherent rambling.

excitingburp,

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Mark Twain

Zevlen,

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  • Fenrisulfir,

    The idiot will have more experience at being an idiot and will throw nonsense and fallacies at you while you try to deflect and defend with logic and reason

    Zevlen,

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  • elbarto777, (edited )

    NO IT DOESN’T! IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE BECAUSE OF WHAT THE JEWS AND PIZZA PARLORS ARE DOING. FIGHT ME NOW!!!

    Edit: I hope the downvoters are people who missed the sarcasm.

    Hadriscus,

    I’m not following

    elbarto777,

    What part did you miss?

    Honytawk,

    Hey pigeon, you think you won chess?

    CaptainSpaceman,

    Biden declining is a win for Trumps fans though

    maynarkh,

    He wants to do it to appear as the clear Rep nominee. He doesn’t get to step over Haley if Biden’s not down.

    CaptainSpaceman,

    Im not disagreeing, but trumpers will say Biden is scared and be emboldened.

    dvoraqs,

    It sounds more like Trump is afraid to engage with Nikki Haley

    Crashumbc,

    Trumpers are a religion at this point. If you base your strategy on them you’ll lose.

    criitz,

    But will that really change anything?

    CaptainSpaceman,

    Not at all, unless Biden specifically says WHY he wont decline.

    AscendantSquid,

    Of course, if Biden gives the right reason then obviously all the Trump fans will vote for him instead. /s

    CaptainSpaceman,

    It may not convert trumpers to biden, but it might also grow more trumpers

    QuaternionsRock,

    Why would he debate someone who is not yet the Republican nominee? He isn’t declining all opportunities to debate up until the election. The only thing that debating him now would accomplish is cementing Trump as the de facto Republican nominee, which is obviously suboptimal.

    xhieron,
    @xhieron@lemmy.world avatar

    If it weren’t for the fact that this shit has real consequences, I’d suggest Biden should invite Haley to debate the president just for spite.

    LopensLeftArm,
    @LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Damn I would pay money to watch a live reaction from Trump on that.

    gregorum,

    Have you ever seen a septic tank explode?

    noride,

    Is that a roundabout way to ask if I’ve ever been to Florida?

    Steve,

    Joe Dirt is that you

    zip,

    “I GOT THE POO ON ME!”

    Telorand,

    Oh good. We’re at the “debate me, bro” phase. Love to see it. Lol

    I sincerely hope Biden never takes a single debate with him, because it would be an absolute clown show, and that’s exactly the kind of chaos Trump’s brand thrives upon.

    OldWoodFrame,

    Trump lost every general election debate he has been in, including two against Biden. I don’t know why people forget he’s actually really bad at staying on message and declaring succinct points in response to specific questions, especially when he gets riled up.

    mosiacmango,

    Because he makes a spectacle and enough sound bites to get the press and his supporters talking.

    He makes noise, they like that he makes noise, so they like him. They dont care too much about what the noise is.

    Telorand,

    That’s true, but people in his camp want a spectacle, an entertaining show, not policy plans and actual governance. Putting Trump up there with Biden gives him implicit credence that he’s worth debating, while Biden will be the punchline of his boorish antics.

    It’s true that he would lose every debate point, yet he would still come out on top because of the giant figurative megaphone he would get.

    Theprogressivist, (edited )
    @Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

    Why give any more credibility to a pathetic loser fascist? He’s doing just fine comparing himself to Elvis.

    EdibleFriend,
    @EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

    But I want to see him tell Trump to shut up again :(

    FuglyDuck,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    I want to see Biden call him an Insurrectionist. Preferably to his face.

    a spade is a spade, even if it’s not proven in a court of law.

    OldWoodFrame,

    I guarantee you will see it if Trump doesn’t run away from debates when it’s actually time. Both Hillary and Biden managed to knock him off kilter with on-message insults like that. We’re 50/50 to getting NO INSURRECTIONIST NO INSURRECTIONIST YOU’RE THE INSURRECTIONIST

    FuglyDuck,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Even without a debate, we’re already there, really.

    AbidanYre,

    Nothing except a whole boat load of court cases to deal with.

    GrammatonCleric,
    @GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s a pretty big boat 😂

    NegativeLookBehind,
    NegativeLookBehind avatar

    How about a geriatric boxing match

    PedroMaldonado,

    Drumpf. When will we be free of this braying Jackass?

    eran_morad,

    Doesn’t matter, the republicunts will just shit out another one.

    norbert,
    norbert avatar

    They've got a little pipeline with The Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society and all the other little billionaire-funded think tanks designed to fuck over the common person and funnel ever more money to the very richest of society while the world burns.

    sramder,
    @sramder@lemmy.world avatar

    So sick of this BS… every presidential debate in my lifetime has been a sham. Biden should still should still do it though! No expectations of an actual debate, just point out he’s not answering any of the questions. Mock his rambling nonsense…

    eran_morad,

    Response is savage, if factually incorrect. Trump is defending himself against 91 felony counts.

    KevonLooney, (edited )

    Look at this shit:

    Biden dismissed the idea.

    “Well, if I were him, I’d want to debate me too,” Biden told reporters at a boba shop in Las Vegas when asked about Trump’s challenge. “He’s got nothing else to do,” Biden added.

    Biden cares so little about this. Trump is like “please debate me bro” and Biden’s in Vegas getting a boba tea. You can hear the sunglasses he’s wearing and the smile on his face. Trump is desperate and Biden doesn’t think about Trump at all.

    Edit: I forgot - Trump issued his challenge on the radio to some guy named Dan Bongino. No, I don’t care who he is, but I do know Trump would rather be interviewed by a blond Fox TV anchor instead of a dude on the radio.

    Trump is the only guy who lost influence by becoming President. He used to be prime time news. Now he’s begging for a 1 hour slot on network TV.

    eran_morad,

    lookhowtheymassacredmyboy.gif

    Cerbero,

    Trying to overthrow the government will do that. He’s lucky (for now) not to be in jail.

    PeckerBrown,

    Have your saggy pumpkin tits debate each other, Donnie.

    Bonesince1997,

    Life does not stop and start at your convenience, you miserable piece of sh*t.

    Pavidus,

    I’m torn. On one hand, debates should take place to show knowledge/professionalism/action plans, etc. Also, it showcases (yet again) what a fucking idiot he is. On the other hand, he hasn’t done a debate so far for this presidential race, so why start now? It’s been nice hearing about him slightly less.

    Also…how the fuck are debates not somehow mandatory to end up in the presidential race?

    deft,

    debates haven’t been legit for decades and since then they progressively get worse

    blackbarn,

    They aren’t even debates. Just people yelling over each other for sound bytes and some TV time.

    PilferJynx,

    “Will you shut up, man!” Remember how their last debate played out. It’ll be worse this time around.

    Pavidus,

    Agreed.

    wagoner,

    At this point, the only ones debating/wanting to debate are the losers.

    ook_the_librarian,
    @ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

    On the other hand, he hasn’t done a debate so far for this presidential race

    It is way too early for R vs. D debates. Why would Biden debate him? Biden is handily beating Dean Phillips. Trump needs to defeat Haley first. It’s not Biden fault Haley is still in it.

    Pavidus,

    It is too early indeed. I was referring to all of the primary debates he skipped.

    themeatbridge,

    Neither has officially won their party’s respective nominations. There is plenty of time, and there will be debates.

    Pavidus,

    The primaries are what I was referring to. I understand there’s time for actual candidate debates.

    themeatbridge,

    Oh then yeah, I agree with you, Trump and Haley should debate. I’m not sure anything is gained having Biden debate any challengers.

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