These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid

  • The House passed a more than $60 billion bill that provides more military aid to Ukraine.
  • It’s part of a larger foreign aid package that’s likely to pass the Senate and be signed into law.
  • 112 Republicans voted it against — the most ever, and a majority of the GOP conference.

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Saturday’s vote marked the first time the House had approved billions of dollars in Ukraine aid since December 2022, when Democrats still controlled the chamber.

In the two years since Russia’s invasion, opposition to aiding Ukraine has grown from a fringe position to a majority view among House GOP lawmakers. Many argue the money should be spent domestically or that policy changes at the US-Mexico border should take precedence.

Here are the https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024151 who voted against the bill.

AngryCommieKender,

Blatantly copying my previous comment.

Hey, Republicans, do y’all remember Red Dawn? Those two movies you made about The USSR and Russia being the ultimate evil enemy that was going to invade and must be stopped? You do? Good.

My real question is, why in the name of all that is Murican, ARE YOU ACTIVELY HELPING RUSSIA WITH THEIR ILLEGAL AND UNPROVOKED INVASION‽‽‽

FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Republicans are the kind of people who think Footloose is a warning against the dangers of freedom.

root_beer,

Because the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship, which the GOP hated (the communist part of it, anyway), and modern Russia is kleptocratic oligarchy, which the GOP loves. Easy enough to tease out, really.

RememberTheApollo_,

Even simpler:

Communist = lefties

Oligarchs & dictators = rich CEOs running the country.

Guess which ones the republicans have been supporting for decades.

Mastengwe,

Ever simplerer:

$$$$$$$

Frozengyro,

Yes, they are clearly bought and paid for.

Mastengwe,

Because money.

Carmakazi,

The GOP decision-makers see the Russian oligarchy and how freely they leech their wealth from the public and say “I want that.”

The MAGA followers see modern Russian society as a bastion of “western” (white) moral traditionalism holding out against progressive globalist degeneracy where none of this “woke” shit flies.

They have more in common with modern Russia than they do with modern America. They want the US to be more like Russia and many will be willing to spill American blood to get there.

seth,

I wish they would fully commit, and emigrate to Russia. Like that idiot family on YouTube.

Honytawk,

So now you have a list of politicians that can either be bought by Russian money, or are dumb enough to fall for Russian propaganda.

Neither of which should be elected to lead a country.

uberdroog,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, they do represent a portion of their constituents.

fosho,

off topic but I think you missed a real opportunity by not making your username “Honytalk”

disguy_ovahea, (edited )

Agreed. We’ve also obtained a Russian foreign policy document that explicitly states the support of the right-ring party in leveraging the direction of the US in favor of Russian support.

washingtonpost.com/…/russia-propaganda-us-ukraine…

The communication if you wish to translate for yourself:

washingtonpost.com/…/e7843591-08c7-4dab-98e1-d6fa…

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

well you got the names, now how about doing a little background check if there is some russki money lying somewhere in those traitors bank accounts…

index,

I’m doing background research and found a picture of biden laughing with medvedev and berlusconi. I guess it’s not just these 112 idiots who have ties with the mafia and russia but all of them are corrupted pigs in for the money and wealth

disguy_ovahea,

Biden already said he’d veto an aid bill that included Israel without Ukraine. The republicans tried anyway, by drafting legislation last week.

nytimes.com/…/biden-veto-israel-ukraine-immigrati…

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

okay.

Burn_The_Right,

If Biden is also taking bribe money from Russia, as you suggest, then we should expect him to veto this bill, right?

Neoliberals are conservatives, but they usually are not outright traitors the way Republican conservatives are.

index,

If Biden is also taking bribe money from Russia, as you suggest, then we should expect him to veto this bill, right?

No? While peasants get send to the front to die politicians are collecting wealth and power thanks to this war.

You should expect politicians to do what’s in their personal greedy interest, being taking money from someone or stabbing them in the back.

Natanael,

Some of the politicians realizes that an intact infrastructure and Europe not burdoned by war is a good thing and helps economic trade, etc. Some are old school politicians focused on diplomacy and mutually beneficial agreements (as confirmed being the most efficient strategy by game theory).

And then there’s the morons who only think about short term personal benefits

ChunkMcHorkle, (edited )
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

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index,

Never made a post pro authoritarian corrupted governments. You must have open someone else profile

Oderus,

This thread is great because pro-Russian morons are exposing themselves so it makes it real easy to block them.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

makes it real easy to block them.

FYI, when you block someone on Lemmy, they can still see your posts, and can respond to them.

The only thing that truly happens is that you can’t see what they’re saying/replying.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

Oderus,

That’s good enough for me. I don’t need to read the bullshit stuff they say anyway. like, “it doesn’t make one “pro russia” if you don’t think sending BILLIONS of dollars to a foreign country is a great idea.” … what a tool

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Fair enough, but they could be undermining your comments and you wouldn’t know it. Just saying.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

Oderus,

That’s fine. They likely have more free time than I do to argue about nothing and for those that see their bullshit, they’ll just vote it down.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

and for those that see their bullshit, they’ll just vote it down.

Thats one way of looking at it. 🤷😇

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

FontMasterFlex,

it doesn’t make one “pro russia” if you don’t think sending BILLIONS of dollars to a foreign country is a great idea.

Oderus,

It sure does. Blocked.

FJT,

Wrong

FontMasterFlex,

ooo “blocked”.

Fades,

you sure showed them

FJT,

Self righteous leftist on full display

FJT,

There’s a difference between pro Russian and not supporting giving tax dollars away to another country. Not everybody is pro Russian who wants to keep our tax dollars at home.

Oderus,

Not in this context. Blocked

Etterra,

Republicans then: Yay McCarthyism!

Republicans now: Daddy Putin, please step on my face uwu!

cmbabul,

It was never about the Russians, it was always about protecting the rich

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

nyaaaaaaah putin >w< i wanna be one of your chiwd sowlders twerks in mass war crime

  • leaked imessage between matt gaetz and putin, probably
UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Its the same picture. McCarthyism was far more about whipping domestic residents into subservience than opposing some foreign menace. The Republican alignment with Daddy Vlady is now just a litmus test for party line faithfulness. A kind of partisan hazing ritual, where you have to go on cable news and say the thing that will get liberals to boo at you, so you can prove you’re not one of them.

Then you can start hitting the harder stuff. You get into the QAnon kool-aid that convinces you there’s a vast pedophile conspiracy to enslave white children, and only the most orthodox right-wing evangelicals can protect you from it.

Modern day Birchers have far more beef with China than Russia anyway. For, uh… reasons.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/372992cf-890d-4a8d-bc85-cbc40ad423bb.jpeg

3volver,

The fact that the only Nays were Republicans speaks volumes. The Republican party has been compromised by Russia, it’s the only explanation that makes sense.

FiniteBanjo,

And, to clarify for future readers, this vote was only for the Ukraine Aid portion of the package. Each part got a separate vote. So even though the package includes Israeli funding, it wasn’t part of this particular vote which was exclusively about aid to Ukraine.

Sam_Bass,

Those putinites should be kicked off the squad

Fades,

TRAITORS

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I know this isn’t why they voted against it, but the mass surveillance / censorship bill tacked onto this that’s vainly disguised as a TikTok ban is pretty scary.

Fuck the GOP.

FiniteBanjo,

Each measure in the package got it’s own vote. They voted against Ukraine Aid for no other reason than that it gave aid to Ukraine.

PiratePanPan,
@PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Did they? Huh.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

These 112 House Republicans voted against Ukraine aid

So very Jesus of them. /s

Reagan has got to be doing cartwheels in his coffin right now.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

ZombiFrancis,

And now people are singing Speaker Johnson’s praises?

Amazing stuff.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

He did the thing that liberals wanted him to do, so he’s a hero.

When he does a thing liberals don’t like, he’ll be the enemy again.

If you don’t like how a politician is perceived in western media, just wait a minute. Everyone from Ralph Nader to Strom Thurmond can be villainized or redeemed over a long enough timeline.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

I hear Nixon liked dogs.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

He definitely liked kickbacks.

FJT,

Let’s go Trump redemption 2024! Woohoo!

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

This, but unironically what the NYT has been pushing since he eclipsed Biden in the polls.

matjoeman,

It’s fine to praise people for doing the right thing and also criticise them for doing the wrong thing.

Nobody,

Good for Speaker Johnson. It was a mistake for the far right to support him. He’s an evangelical, but he’s also a true believer, rather than a grifter. When fully briefed on the intelligence, he ultimately chose to do the right thing.

n3m37h,

Ominous budget bills should be illegal. Why should the have to vote to help Ukraine and also send billions to a known terrorist organisation known by the name of Isreal

OftenWrong,

They also snuck the TikTok ban in there. I know a lot of old and out of touch folks on here think it’s a good thing to ban the “dancing app” but is it? They couldn’t get enough support to do it as a single issue the last two times they tried so the shoved it into this one to get their way. Ludicrous that our government doesn’t even pretend to work for us anymore. It wasn’t banned to protect us. It was banned to boost and protect their income.

ultranaut,

From what I’ve read they are just requiring that it not be owned by the CCP by a certain date, i.e. it’s not actually being banned, it’s just going to have a change of ownership. I might be old and out of touch because I’ve never used TikTok but it seems reasonable that an app which is providing the kind of content it provides at the scale it is providing it should be independent of the Chinese government if it wants to operate in the US.

OftenWrong,

It’s not going to change ownership because they have said in no uncertain terms that they won’t and can’t sell. They can’t legally sell their algorithm anyway which is basically the whole point of the app. So even if they did, which they have stated they can’t and won’t, it’ll be a skeleton of what we have now at best. At that point it’ll just be them selling our data to some shitty US corporation which honestly pisses me off more. The people said no to this, they pushed it through anyway, and to top it off we’re once again just having our data handed over to the top bidder. We should be used to people using our data without our consent but it feels especially shitty this time considering we said no.

What kind of content do you think it’s providing that’s so much more dangerous in some other countries hands? Also, why should I care if China profits off my data when the US has been stealing and abusing it for their own purposes for years anyway?

ultranaut,

The risk is that it provides the CCP with a direct avenue to propagandize Americans and spread disinformation in the US. If you’re an American then you should maybe care that a government which considers itself an adversary of the US can use your data to manipulate you into believing untrue things which serve their interests instead of your own. I understand if you don’t care who profits from your data but that’s not the actual issue here.

OftenWrong, (edited )

Ok. Show me where the propaganda is? Is it hiding in the recipe videos or cat videos or memes on my page that were made by other Americans? This is a bs excuse that way too many of you gobbled up simply because you wanted to believe it. The actual issue here is that millions of Americans aren’t profiting American corporations and they hate that. So the corporations that basically run our country at this point found a way to put a stop to it. Now they’ll try to buy up all of our data, without our consent as usual, under the guise of protecting it for us.

As an American, my own government ignored millions its citizens telling them we don’t want this and quietly banned it by tucking it away inside of other bills. As an American, my own government is using my tax dollars to fund a genocide while declining to feed school kids and protect women’s rights. As an American, I’m disappointed in my fellow Americans’ eagerness to dismiss and defend this extremely unpatriotic act by our government.

Take a look at the buffoons “protecting us” and tell me you still believe they have good intentions and aren’t just fear mongering.

youtu.be/5W-ufw5Z7ac?si=byjdYoRRl5qx6jULyoutu.be/cuCk4ofsTkM?si=kf6m1BzB2fuaGr4x

They don’t even know basic geography or how the internet works ffs. Feel free to watch the whole thing. It was long but really eye opening to see just how little the people representing us actually understand about the world we live in.

ultranaut,

I think you need to dig into the actual arguments being made around this subject and try engaging them with an open mind. If you’re currently incapable of understanding how TikTok can be used to spread propaganda it’s pointless for us to discuss this.

OftenWrong,

What a non-answer. If you can’t hold up your end of the conversation by backing up your own claims then just say that and don’t waste people’s time.

ultranaut,

Yes, it’s a non-answer because the questions you asked in your previous comment are enough for me to know its pointless to engage further with you. If you’re unable to recognize the potential risks involved we are not going to accomplish anything discussing this issue.

OftenWrong,

Lmao. Ok 👍

Zengen,

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    Jimmyeatsausage,

    You should enlist and deploy a few times to get a taste of what you’re wishing our communities.

    Oderus,

    Brave post while sitting on your ass doing nothing but whining.

    phoenixz,

    You have absolutely no idea what you are wishing for and no idea how much worse things will get if your wish would become true

    uis,

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this list also list of yacht owners.

    n3m37h,

    Or anti Israeli as they also got a few billion in this deal

    uis,

    As people mention here Israel and Ukraine were voted separately.

    jkrtn,

    I see Lauren Bobo and Gaetz on there, it could be a list of pedophiles and public masturbators.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart,

    Who hasn’t jerked off there date to Beetlejucie?

    That movie gets me laying snail trails wherever I go.

    DreamlandLividity, (edited )

    The article “forgets” to mention the “foreign aid package” also contains billions to support “totally not a Genocide” commiting regime of Israel.

    I am not sure I would vote for it myself and I definitely support Ukraine.

    gmtom,

    read the fucking article, each portion got a separate vote.

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Which, paradoxically, means they’re all going to pass.

    The only piece of legislation the House really had beef with was the Ukraine bill. And they solved that by stapling the TikTok ban to it. Now the Dems in the Senate will greenlight all the money for Israel and Taiwan on reflex and choke down Ukraine as a sensible compromise.

    DreamlandLividity,

    Ahh, I missed that. Sorry. Makes it even more ridiculous the Israel aid passed.

    Etterra,

    Gotta speed that rapture along somehow. Also, for the slightly less insane ones, gotta have somebody there to keep Iran scared.

    zenitsu,

    Passed with more ease than Ukraine’s even…

    VirtualOdour,

    Because they get full intelligence briefing on the entire complex situation rather than.just getting indignant on the internet because of some memes and polemic opinion pieces they saw the headlines of

    Schadrach,

    I mean that they’re our only real ally in the Middle East is probably enough on its own to justify the funding to Congress.

    DreamlandLividity,

    Ohhh, yes. Our glorious leaders have secret information we don’t. Surely we must defer to their wisdom and support them unconditionally. /s

    UnderpantsWeevil,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    they get full intelligence briefing on the entire complex situation

    The year is 2003 and Nancy Pelosi is whispering to constituents that - yes, all this might look sketchy on its face - but the CIA just gave the intelligence committee a tip about this source named “Curveball” that’s going to prove Saddam has WMDs and justify the whole thing.

    Larry,

    Actually, sending taxpayer money to weapons manufacturers so you can support a genocide that your voters are ready to ditch you over is 9D chess, you wouldn’t get it

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