Any way to listen to music (privately?)

I’m going insane. I cannot for the life of me find a suitable way to listen to music privately. I’m on iOS, and I don’t know whether to just stick to Apple Music or give up on music in general (I tried, TRIED to go local, but all the apps are shitty). Any way to listen to music and not have your data compromised? Should I just stick to Apple Music and hope that laws change (maybe something like EU’s DMA?)

Edit: Hey all! First of all, thank you so much for all the recommendations! I’ve discovered so many great apps and tools I didn’t even know existed (and it has also brought my hopes up for privacy in general). Even though it’s still not perfect, I’ve been using foobar2000 on iOS, downloading music I find (I’m still using Apple Music for discovery, but will probably stop when my subscription ends this month). For desktop I’m using HyperPipe, which although a little buggy at times is so awesome! One thing I do miss about this system is the lack of lyrics. Apple Music has such a beautiful UI when it comes with lyrics, but you can’t have it all when it comes to privacy it seems. Thanks for the amazing discussion! I’m so far loving Lemmy ;)

Zorque,

Do people not just download music anymore?

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

I'm 26, and don't know anyone, myself included, who purchases and downloads music to any significant degree. Essentially everyone I know just uses streaming platforms.

Zorque,

Sounds terrible for privacy.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Respectfully, I think you may be drastically overestimating how much average people care about that.

Zorque,

Well, considering the community this discussion is in...

And, respectfully, the average person doesn't seem to give much of a fuck about anything other their own base desires most of the time.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Sure. But the question you asked was "Do people not just download music anymore?", and the answer to that question, which you seemed unaware of, is "Not really, no".

Do enjoy your highly refined and elevated desires, O noble one.

JubilantJaguar,

How to undermine one’s own comment with a gratuitous insult.

Juno,

Wow, they got your generation good. I’m over here listening to flac files and mp3s I ripped in 2003.

SomeAmateur, (edited )

Part of my job is traveling by air, so I got a $30ish sandisc mp3 player with a 200+gb sd card. I have a bunch of music and sometimes podcasts on there. Saves my phone battery, has zero ads, and as a bonus it has fm radio for surfing the stations below as they fade in and out every minute or so.

Blizzard,

He didn’t say anything about purchasing…

mishimaenjoyer,
mishimaenjoyer avatar

to be fair, to buy albums off sites like bandcamp, cutting out greedy multinational media conglomerates and give the money to the ppl actually working on it (yeah, i know, fees, welcome to distribution) and getting basically every (losslees/hr) codec in return for "name your price"-conditions makes it questionable to pirate some indie album to save like three bucks.

shotgun_crab,

This is always surprising to me. I can understand streaming video due to their high file sizes, but audio (even FLACs) is a lot smaller in general. The only reason I use spotify sometimes is to discover new stuff.

InFerNo,

I have my music library that I listen to, to which I add songs by getting them from youtube (it’s good enough for my cheap on the go earphones). Sometimes I tune into radio stations that offer nonstop music (like stubru tijdloze).

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

I still buy CDs. And back then up to play in my truck. And rip them.

I still think OWNING media is a good idea. No privacy issues at all.

LazerDickMcCheese,

Always this, never let physical copies die. They can’t revoke shit legally bought and personally archived

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Vinyl has gotten so big at this point (and is also extremely profitable relative to streaming), that it's not in any danger at all.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

Vinyl is damn expensive.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Hence it being extremely profitable.

guyrocket,
guyrocket avatar

You're not wrong.

mp3,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Most of the stuff I listen to isn’t mainstream and the band are on Bandcamp. It’s great being able to buy the FLAC version right away.

kick_out_the_jams,

https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/bandcamp-fridays-update

it's worth noting that the first friday of each month they usually forgo their cut so more money goes to the artists.

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

VLC for iOS?

Zetaphor,

If you’re able and willing to self-host, I’ve developed a pretty great system that automates my entire process. The app I’m using on mobile is also available on iOS

zemmy.cc/post/25500

HumanPerson,

I use a jellyfin server plus finamp for ios plus totally legal downloaded music that was 100% legally obtained.

harsh3466,

+1 for Jellyfin with Finamp (or Fintunes). Also what I use and it’s fabulous.

nyakojiru,
@nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nicotine+ and Plexamp

Anticorp,

MP3 files that you own. They can never take them away from you, and you don’t have to pay every month for them.

foxmoss,

Android has a fair few foss music apps.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

flac

nomadjoanne,

Jellyfin.

Postis2,

Why? You can just use syncthing

nomadjoanne,

Some people have hundreds of gigabytes of perfectly legally obtained music.

They don’t want all of this on their phone. Also you can have your movies and shows on Jellyfin.

Dillacorn,

I built an OpenMediaVault NAS and run a JellyFin server on it… connect with wireguard and stream music with Symfonium I’ve decided to download on the web… it’s a little work to get there but it’s def private as long as you trust the devs. I’d also recommend vimusic for music discovery and web playing.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Is there something wrong with mp3s?

airikr,

I download the music from YouTube (through front-end services like Piped) and play it locally through a music player.

I don’t know how it works on iPhone (I have an Android phone), but I can use NewPipe and LibreTube and Seal to download the music. If I’m on the go that is. Otherwise I download the music through ytdlp and transfer the files to my smartphone.

Apple really restrict their users to their own ecosystem.

uberrice,

Yt-dlp is great for getting music from YouTube music.

You even get fairly good quality if you have premium (I do through Argentina, so it costs me cents per month)

airikr,

Woot? yt-dlp premium? Never heard of it. yt-dlp have always been and will always be free (donations aside) since it’s open sourced. Sounds like you pay to a scammer. Or do you mean YouTube Premium? :)

uberrice,

YouTube premium to access the higher bitrates through Yt-dlp ;)

slacktoid,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

Setup your own subsonic or ampache server. nextcloud has an app for that.

quantenzitrone,

If anyone is interested, i recently developed my own system of defining my music library declaratively in the Nix programming language and started switching to it. It creates folders as playlists and can automatically download the music from YouTube or SoundCloud. I plan to expand and improve this further.

I doubt this will work on IOS tho, sorry OP.

codeberg.org/…/declarative-music.nix

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