brodriguesco,
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No disrespect to Wes McKinney (I don’t like , but I personally could have never done something like that myself), but there’s literally 0 reason (apart from running legacy code) to use now when there’s on . With , is still the GOAT

samfirke,
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@brodriguesco long time dplyr user here who has been shifting to . Mostly working in Pandas and love a few things like pd.read_sql() -- I'm going ETL, not analysis-- but this is a reminder that I need to check out polars!

brodriguesco,
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@samfirke Can I ask what made you switch to Python?

samfirke,
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@brodriguesco sure! I switched jobs, if still mostly analyzing data I'd use R and the tidyverse.

  1. I'm the only R user here, a few teammates know Python
  2. I mostly do ETL, no stats anymore, and my main applications are Apache Airflow for data migration and Apache Superset for dashboards and reports. Airflow DAGs have to be Python, both applications are written in Python and I contribute to Superset.

I still use R for intense data wrangling where I feel there's no other choice.

samfirke,
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@brodriguesco having used both I'll say is lightyears behind for data analysis, it's brutal

brodriguesco,
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@samfirke thank you for your perspective! I agree, pandas is really behind dplyr, polars really closes that gap I must say. You can really feel the influence dplyr had on polar's design when you're using it.

friessn,

@brodriguesco @samfirke I am curious what will happen now that Wes McKinney (pandas creator) joined posit and basically sits next to the dplyr people.

brodriguesco,
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@friessn @samfirke my guess? Ibis will become the de facto dplyr-like library for Python, and more tidyverse-inspired packages will join ibis and in due time, there will be a tidyverse-like set of packages for Python. Pandas will be kept around for historical reasons like plyr

brodriguesco,
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@friessn @samfirke I made this polars meme, but I am also looking closely into ibis. Ibis might be the future dplyr-like data wrangling in Python.

johnmackintosh,
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@brodriguesco I don't know enough about any of this to dispute it.

Excellent meme though 😄

ataustin,
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@brodriguesco
new favorite meme just dropped

eddelbuettel,
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@brodriguesco

"checks for rpolars on CRAN"

"and that's why we can't have nice things"

It's complicated. It'll get there. But it may take a toolchain update (or two, or three, ...) to get there. But all things avant-garde become mainstream eventually due to the passage of time ...

brodriguesco,
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@eddelbuettel true, looking forward to it!

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