North,
@North@chaos.social avatar

Hot take: Do whatever you want to old shit if it means you'll use it. Unless it has archeological value (It's the only/last of its kind, undocumented hardware, etc) then I'd much rather see a "vintage" computer with yellowed plastic and a big hole drilled in the side for a battery pack running someone's automated garden watering system or home automation than a pristine system powered off in a private collection. Don't get too precious about these mass manufactured tools.

rose_alibi,
@rose_alibi@post.lurk.org avatar

@North yes. 100%. part of why i try to include new uses for old stuff in the lab where i can

Dianora,
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@North My only concern would be using something so archaic it uses more power than needed. But otherwise, yes.

UT3UMS,
@UT3UMS@mastodon.radio avatar

@North there's an energy efficiency issue in the old stuff unfortunately. I was thinking to use old Pentium MMX for some kind of automation, but raspberry will do it better and for lesser cost

juni,
@juni@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@North this makes me feel better about accidentally drilling a hole into the lid of my T40, thanks

lispi314,
@lispi314@mastodon.top avatar

@North I think whether it still works (or can practically be repaired) should factor into it.

If it still worked, some destruction of the original thing is involved.

If it's not, then it was already fairly late for preservation.

iquaanyin,
@iquaanyin@mastodon.social avatar

@North same for new shit, costly shit, shit someone gave you for christmas. always worked well for me.

Nazani,

@North Quibble: I repair old dolls and if you think they're creepy, please just give them or the parts to a member of your local doll club. (See UFDC listings) Also, destroying your Mom's childhood toys is sexist, go make "art" out of vintage Hot Wheels or early 20th century train sets.

North,
@North@chaos.social avatar

@Nazani I genuinely can't tell if you replied to the wrong toot

Nazani,

@North No, as Halloween approaches, I get people asking me for my "old shit," which will be valuable after cleaning, restringing, etc.

North,
@North@chaos.social avatar

@Nazani Oh I see. Yeah, that seems frustrating. I guess I'm speaking pretty specifically about mass-manufactured objects, especially electronics and computers.

LightTheUnicorn,
@LightTheUnicorn@lighttheunicorn.horse avatar

@North Yeah, full agree! I love seeing old machines get a new lease of life. Yellowed, chipped up and rough machines have a story to tell, and the story is just as important as the thing telling it.

Benhm3,
@Benhm3@mastodon.social avatar

@North

Nothing staler than “leading edge tech.” Use it, however you want, but use it.

bp,

@North It's cute that your idea of archaeological value is like 40 years old meanwhile

https://www.imj.org.il/en/collections/198069-0

North,
@North@chaos.social avatar

@bp Okay "archival" value, I think you understood my meaning and you're just being a dick.

bp,

@North New definition of dick: having a history but you're Jewish

Gotcha!

kaimac,

@bp @North stunning non sequitur but ok

North,
@North@chaos.social avatar

I'm not saying you can't enjoy the aesthetics of mass-manufactured goods, I like to take a good whiff of a Dieter Rams, etc. But you don't get to berate people for using a tool instead of "preserving" it. All of it is temporary. All of it and you.

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