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Belgian Defense Minister Ludivine Dedonder confirmed the country's intentions to transfer F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine in 2025.

"We highly appreciate your steadfast support and comprehensive participation in the process of strengthening the defense capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," Defense Minister Umerov emphasized.

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports 1/2 first lets stop pretending that in EU we have no problems with groups that dont give a 💩 & the ones openly pro-Z
    What they have done is a compromise and a long term decision is better than no decision: at least it shows that the well wont be dry tomorrow even if doesnt do much more Hopefully its a decision made knowing that others are giving them earlier anyways (to be believed when we really see them though)
    Also geografical position

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports 2/2Im talking about a lot more than just "our share", its massive and they always worked against even before this war, you can see how whole governments now have changed and r pulling the brakes
    Ppl is taking ridiculous positions like "the west doesnt want us to win" or "they are ingrates", keeping saying "the west"/"they" pisses off ppl and pushes even more of them on the wrong side
    This kind of attitude is what Z was betting on since the beginning

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports bein in NATO is part of the problem as every country is obliged to keep up a certain amount of defense, if its not an extra it needs to be replaced first, and you cant go around it since rules werent thought as "moving core stuff" to outside, they were about directly fighting the outside
    Portugal is the easiest example of that
    & every opposition party would jump on it with the being defenceless and € excuse, specially non intervention parties, thats dangerous

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports spending is one, but there is even obligations and commitment on being operative on top of it
    Make it smaller: in case of necessity u think the cop is gonna give you his gun? the taser? nope, cant do that
    Morally Id say Portugal is safe enough that they dont even need a broomstick to swing around but reality is that those things r super complicated as is, worse now that ppl keep telling what goes where and so efforts r wasted on flashy 💩 instead than essentials

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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports they were building from awhile, ppl made fun of the toblerones but those were still part of it, while those went up the minefields went up too, its their habit, russians=mines
    Thinking fortifications were ever a joke was just a social media exaggeration, u cant believe that the military made plans based on jokes and memes.
    One cant go and say victory is Ukrainian merit and loss is the West fault because the newspapers said so, doesnt work like that

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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports we cant say that, we know only the BS to sell an article: you had enough, no we didnt, should have attacked in one spot, no better in 3 spots... its stupid bickering that should have stayed behind closed doors not for the glory of bloggers and journalists
    Reality is that take huge compromise effort to move things as is, the more the open bickering the worse it makes because then the "voters" issue becomes more pressing, ppl that has no business in that butts in

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports open discourse is one thing, dirty laundry in public another
    It trickles down to people, some are soldiers, some are bloggers, some both, they make their own BS about it spread it and it becomes poisonous: on voters you lose support, on Ukrainians frustration on top of it can make it even worse, so much for info war

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports 1/3 sorry but war is not a democracy. Planning and strategy are matters to be dealt behind closed doors or its damaging
    U cant complain things are the way they are but also be ok because thats democracy
    The cops dont go asking us or discuss police operations in open forums, if they did that no decision will ever be made and the criminals will know exactly whats gonna happen, right now absolutely everything is out there and being misused for this or that interest

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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports 2/3 We have different opinions, backgrounds (age probably) but we talk, u know very well that a lot of ppl dont want to have civil exchanges, bring democracy and open discourse to an extreme and those ppl take over Unfortunately good things in our society r a compromise of necessary evils, u have to accept that evil they are and so there r risks since the perfect compromise doesnt exist, to limit those risks the needle must move back and forth with the circumstances

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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports 3/3 if your house is on fire u want only competent firefighters to manage what to do, if they decide&argue openly & your incompetent neighbor can butt in reasoning that his house is there & its a democracy Im sure u would curse it and want his freedom restricted so he wont hamper the efforts to save your home
    BTW the townspeople held a democratic referendum and voted for less hydrants, smaller hoses, less water pressure some time before so just a little water comes

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports Very likely china might go for Taiwan and beyond, lots is already happening down there, Japan is worried. If chaos starts NKorea is crazy, Iran&C r fishy also
    The mess in Israel had a "strangely" bad timing
    When 🇺🇦 wins dont expect ruZZia to fall apart so if US is occupied there EU is alone & there r less weapons than u think to buy &cant make enough new
    We had decades of peace posture & the next 10yrs arent going to be pretty
    we forgot si vis pacem, para bellum

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  • Edizionilazio,
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    @VikingChieftain @noelreports exactly that, it always been the case since politics was born and russia took advantage of it, never stopped doing the work of the USSR really, slowed it, changed it, but never stopped it
    In Italy gave huge amounts of money to every political side to keep things messy, and the ones speaking up were called warmongers

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