thenewoil,

@protonmail how do you guys handle push notifications? In other words: in light of this article does Proton take any steps to protect users from this type of surveillance?

https://www.404media.co/us-government-warrant-monitoring-push-notifications-apple-google-yahoo/

protonmail,
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

@thenewoil All Proton push notifications are protected by end-to-end encryption.

case2tv,
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@protonmail of course they are. But that’s nothing special and other nearly all do the same. The point is the push token at all. ALL anonymization attempts can be thwarted with push tokens from the APN (Apple) and FCM (Google) services. The Protonmail app only uses push services and offers no alternative. When using IMAP with other providers you can change to pulling messages!
So big downside when using protonmail! @thenewoil

gmate8,
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@case2tv @protonmail @thenewoil it was promised sometime we get alternative methods to get notifs

Decentralize,
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@protonmail @thenewoil the problem with proton is they use google services in the first place. Tuta does not, as an example and android people who don’t use google services still get push notifications. This should been addressed years ago but been ignored so long.

Joel____,

@Decentralize @protonmail @thenewoil
If you are looking into protonmail push without firebase, this app is pretty great. https://github.com/LeanderBB/you-have-mail

Decentralize,
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@Joel____ @protonmail @thenewoil that is great, but my point is why we need a third party app for something proton should address

Joel____,

@Decentralize @protonmail @thenewoil
I totally agree. They should just implement their own push or unified push. Both of those would be great solutions and I would have to imagine unified push would not be super hard to integrate.

protonmail,
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@Joel____ @Decentralize @thenewoil We also provide the APK for Android users at https://protonapps.com/

JustaWorkingMan,

@thenewoil @protonmail I wonder if just shutting them off like I normally do and when I check it I check it avoids the problem

thenewoil,

@JustaWorkingMan @protonmail From what the article indicates, no. Unless you never registered for push notifications in the first place, in which case possibly? The article suggests that when you first set up the app it creates the push token which links your account with your device. But it's unclear at what stage of the process this happens (at least, to me).

protonmail,
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

@thenewoil @JustaWorkingMan

Proton push notifications are already protected by end-to-end encryption.

N0R_D,

@protonmail @thenewoil @JustaWorkingMan
I just hope Proton Mail will stop using google services for notifications on android

protonmail,
@protonmail@mastodon.social avatar

@N0R_D @thenewoil For Android users, we also provide the APK here which does not use google services: https://protonapps.com/

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