gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

me: uh hey twitch you made me an affiliate about a month ago but for some reason I can't get on any of the community rewards stuff. based on the browser console it looks like the emotes service isn't seeing the affiliate role on my account and it's throwing a graphql error.

twitch support: thanks for getting in touch with us! have you tried turning off your antivirus?

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

begging support peeps to recognise when the person contacting you is saying things that require immediate escalation to someone with an ounce of technical knowledge

fbarton,

@gsuberland or "I'm calling you because we're seeing evidence that an account on your system has been compromised"

nota,
@nota@chaos.social avatar

@gsuberland I think it may have a lot to do with how first level support is mostly judged based on how much money they can save by turning you away from their more expensive support staff

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@nota oh I'm 100% aware of the shitty incentives involved. when I say "support peeps" I mean organisationally not as individuals

karlhigley,
@karlhigley@recsys.social avatar

@gsuberland This is one of the few use cases for LLMs that I’m actually optimistic about. “Recognize this pattern and respond accordingly”—in this case by routing issues to appropriate support—seems doable, particularly in an area where labeled data should be possible to acquire and mistakes are undesirable but not catastrophic.

(Directly answering support requests on the other hand…🙅🏼)

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@karlhigley yeah no lol LLMs are never gonna get used for that, they'll just use them to reply with nonsense to save on employment costs

jernej__s,

@karlhigley @gsuberland LLMs are so good at this that even OpenAI doesn't use them for this purpose.

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

oh wow they are so incredibly useless. they just closed the ticket and said they can't help. wat

nblr,
@nblr@chaos.social avatar

@gsuberland It took me half a year to get Deutsche Bahn to recognize they sold me bike transport on a train without bike racks. They send me boilerplate excuses, gift vouchers, all while I just asked them to fix processes so other people don’t get similarly frustrated. In the end, they refunded the extra tickets I needed to buy (after half a year), which would have been sensible months ago while claiming that they can’t look further into it as there were no more logs to investigate the cause. 🙄

nblr,
@nblr@chaos.social avatar

@gsuberland The struggle is real.
https://xkcd.com/806/

irenes,
@irenes@mastodon.social avatar

@gsuberland "I would like to escalate this to tier 2" is the magic phrase. don't rely on them to consider that possibility on their own.

irenes,
@irenes@mastodon.social avatar

@gsuberland they may still say no, but it's what you can do

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@irenes yeah they closed it in response to that request

jpm,
@jpm@aus.social avatar

@gsuberland of they’re expecting you to be a complete idiot then play along.

You: the thing doesn’t work! Fix it!

Them: turn off your antivirus

You: ok I did that and it still doesn’t work! Fix it!

Them: (other things to try)

You: I tried all of that and it still doesn’t work! Fix it!

And don’t let them close the ticket until it’s actually fixed.

gsuberland,
@gsuberland@chaos.social avatar

@jpm they aren't replying because the ticket is closed.

jpm,
@jpm@aus.social avatar

@gsuberland helpdesk folks gotta meet the SLA. Whatever happened to actually helping the caller solve their actual problem?

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