MLE_online,
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It's hard to write a concise sentence when you have to identify the person in the sentence with a title like, "The Edmund R. and Fanny L. Robertson Endowed Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience, Psychology and Human Behavior; Dawes Leadership Chair of Social Science; and Hawthorne-Croft Medical Institute investigator."

e.g.
A new theory by Jim Smith, the The Edmund R. and Fanny L. Robertson Endowed Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience, Psychology and Human Behavior; Dawes Leadership Chair of Social Science; and Hawthorne-Croft Medical Institute investigator, is changing the way we view interpersonal conflict

poleguy,
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@MLE_online can you just write two sentences? One just introducing the person and title; the next saying something meaningful?

MLE_online,
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@poleguy Sometimes, sometimes not

gray17,
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@MLE_online if you can put the title in parentheses, it will be easier for readers to find the next part of the sentence

rose_alibi,
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@MLE_online i can barely keep a straight face when i give people my title and it's just "managing director"

MLE_online,
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@rose_alibi I recently got promoted and I added my title to my email signature because I'm trying to just let people know I have a different job now, but it feels dumb and pretentious. I can't wait for a few months to pass so people know what my job is and I can take it out of my signature

rose_alibi,
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@MLE_online tbf i am clinically incapable of taking myself (or really much of anything) very seriously

MLE_online,
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@rose_alibi I hate titles. When I used to interview adam schiff for stories at the newspaper, I just called him adam even though everyone else called him congressman schiff. To his credit he was fine with that.

I don't want to use any title for anyone unless it's relevant to the facts of the discussion.

rose_alibi,
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@MLE_online i also hate titles. it has gotten me in trouble a couple times. mostly it works out ok but some people reeaaaally want that little kowtow

MLE_online,
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@rose_alibi There was some discourse on twitter a couple years ago among female academics saying it's patriarchal to refuse to use titles in academia because men are assumed to have authority but women need the title to prove it, and if you don't use the title, you take that away.

I was like, ok, i get what you're all saying, but titles suck and you need to find a better hill to die on

rose_alibi,
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@MLE_online yeah idk i am technically a woman in academia and i think titles are an icky reinforcement of a heirarchy i don't think should exist for anyone. i am far more likely to use a woman's title than a man's though

rose_alibi,
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@MLE_online rare that anyone who had dealt with me for more than a few minutes doesn't respect my authority though so there is that. a benefit of being androgynous. and kind of a bitch.

wcbdata,
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@rose_alibi @MLE_online
Even as a cis white guy, when I was 15 years younger than all my peers and had a long ponytail, a title was often the only thing that would get other professionals to get over their shit and talk with me.

MLE_online,
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@wcbdata @rose_alibi People with academia brain are the worst. Be friends with us staff members. We are chill and fun 😎​

trcwm,
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@MLE_online Smith et al.

MLE_online,
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@trcwm It's not a list of people. It's the title

trcwm,
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@MLE_online I saw too late.. why such a title.. 🤐

MLE_online,
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@trcwm Because donors want to make sure everyone knows they are so generous. Because the right reason to give money is for attention and glory

smellsofbikes,
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@MLE_online I feel like this is a case for footnotes, although that doesn't fit your medium well.

MLE_online,
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@smellsofbikes Not allowed! But, god, i wish it were

mcdanlj,
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@MLE_online @smellsofbikes Oh man, now my mind is replaying a scene from Terry Prachett's Pyramids...

His Greatness the King Teppicymon XXVIII, Lord of the Heavens, Charioteer of the Wagon of the Sun, Steersman of the Barque of the Sun, Guardian of the Secret Knowledge, Lord of the Horizon, Keeper of the Way, the Flail of Mercy, the High-Born One, the Never-Dying King...

This overblown title is actually not really that very much longer than your example, now that I see them both on the screen together!

MLE_online,
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@mcdanlj @smellsofbikes yea, it's that, but in academia.

Also, how'd you do that gray text?

mcdanlj,
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@MLE_online @smellsofbikes I'm running the glitch-soc fork of Mastodon, which honors markdown, so I wrote:

> His Greatness.<br></br>

Then it gets rendered as a quote when I post. Quotes do not show the same on every client, so when it's important that it be clear that it's a quote, I also use quote characters.

> "some actual quote"<br></br>

"some actual quote"

mcdanlj,
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@MLE_online Oh and I see you are also on glitch-soc so that should work for you. But you have to go into preferences and turn it in. It's off by default.

MLE_online,
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@mcdanlj Is this the setting for plain text/rich text/html?

mcdanlj,
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@MLE_online I knew I had written this somewhere — finally found it in the announcement I wrote about moving to glitch-soc (as my low-volume "owner" alt that mostly posts announcements)

To use markdown formatting, ⚙️ Preferences → ⚙️ OtherDefault format for tootsMarkdown and Save changes

https://social.makerforums.info/@owner/109360729849789278

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