gabek,

People too often talk about “The Fediverse version of X”, or “Add ActivityPub to X” without actually talking about the point of it, or what the functionality would be. It’s discussed like a badge that says “I did Fediverse to it”. I wish people discussed this kind of thing from the feature level first. What is it you want to do? What would federation offer you? Does that even make sense for that product? Just saying “Fediverse version of the Chase credit card app” sounds great, but what would that even mean? Is that something people need, or do you just want more “Fediverse stuff”?

I often get requests for random Federated ideas with Owncast that sound cool, but don’t truly solve a problem people have. Identify a problem, come up with useful functionality, work backwards from there.

gcrkrause,
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@gabek I feel you! Whenever someone is asking for the fedi version of Spotify I think "why would you want someone stealing from artists to get rich on the fedi?"

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@gabek

I want a decentralized version of Spotify such that artists/labels can have their own websites and control their music, but we can seamlessly play it all in any music app that can tie into that social graph. I also want to interact with artists ala mastodon. I want people to be able to share songs like they now do with a link to it on YouTube.

I want a decentralized version of PayPal/Venmo such that we can transfer money directly bank to bank as easy as sending email. And have an API.

gabek,

@wjmaggos Can you come up with something that’s not just a clone of another product? :)

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@gabek

no I'm not that smart. isn't the WWW just decentralized AOL? sometimes little changes can change the world :)

ch0ccyra1n,
@ch0ccyra1n@emeraldsocial.org avatar

@wjmaggos @gabek the former arguably already exists as Funkwhale I think? I haven't actually used it so I can't be sure but it seems pretty cool.

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@ch0ccyra1n @gabek

the former is what I want to be but definitely isn't yet. I'm not sure if that's their goal. atm it seems much more focused on being a cloud music service for you and your online friends, not a place for musicians. still appreciate their work.

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