thelinuxcast,
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IF only Hyprland wouldn't freeze on me, I think I'd be very happy to stay with it. As is, it continues to freeze when I wake the computer up from sleep. Bug report filed, but until it is fixed, I'm once again on the lookout for another WM.

So far tonight I've tried river (got it installed, but wouldn't load), bspwm (maybe, but I don't care for the way it does workspaces), DWM (my build is broken so I'll need to start over), and then went back to hyprland.

bitterseeds,
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@thelinuxcast https://www.phoronix.com/news/Hyprland-0.37

New ver. w/ bug fixes ... might help?

thelinuxcast,
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@bitterseeds I will have to wait until it's in the openSUSE repos. The git version has burned me before

ja_herre,
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@thelinuxcast
I know i wrote this to you already but xfce+xmonad is the tiling environment of the old linux curmudgeon who wants to be able to set it up in 10 minutes and never wory an update might change his workflow.
The xmonad page on hiw to make it work is literaly 11 years old and it still works.

thelinuxcast,
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@ja_herre you can send me that link again, but I've pretty much switched to Wayland so I'm trying to stick with that.

ja_herre,
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@thelinuxcast
Have you tried Polonium on Plasma 6? I have no idea in what state the script is by now, but it would be interesting to see.

thelinuxcast,
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@ja_herre kwin scripts are a mess on Plasma 6. And adding them is almost impossible the normal way. IDK how to go about doing it manually, though I'm sure it's not hard

sockpuppet5,

@thelinuxcast Matt, what did you see that was lacking with workspaces in bspwm? A couple of tricks I use for managing them is using "%name% [%nwin%]" to display the number of windows for the workspace in polybar, which is usually enough, or rofi to switch directly to an application if toggling through them is not enough. Just curious.

thelinuxcast,
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@sockpuppet5 I prefer the way xmonad and qtile do workspaces.

sockpuppet5,

@thelinuxcast But what specifically? Is it tags? Workspaces per monitor? Trying to figure out if it's a personal preference or some feature I missed in those other two. Do you discuss bspwm workspace shortcomings in one of your videos?

thelinuxcast,
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@sockpuppet5 I've talked about it before. But basically it's one set of workspaces shared between all the monitors. And they change to the monitor in focus. There's a hack that can makd bspwm do it but it doesn't work well. Nor does polybar do a great job with it.

n1,
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@thelinuxcast what exactly is wrong woth bspwm workspaces?

thelinuxcast,
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@n1 nothing. Just don't work the way I want them to. I.e. like xmonad or qtile

n1,
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@thelinuxcast bspwm is a very simple wm - it opens windows and places them.... if you have a big screen and 9 workspaces it's more than enough ... in case you need more features bspwm might not be for you but on the other hand it's pretty much finished software and in 5 years I've been using it I had no issues .... ofc on X11 you want picom (or similar) to avoid tearing and to get some extra stuff like blur or transparency

thelinuxcast,
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@n1 lol, all window managers just open windows and place them, that's what a window manager is.

n1,
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@thelinuxcast actually not - some come with much more than that

  • desktop
  • icons
  • window joins
  • menu bars/panels
  • keybindings
  • pager
  • taskbar
  • notifications
  • tray
  • title bars
    ...

bspwm has none of that

thelinuxcast,
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@n1 A window manager is a window manager. bspwm and dwm are the same in that account, both doing the same thing. DWM has fewer lines of code than bspwm but has a bar and manages the keybindings.

But just because one has a bar and the other doesn't, doesn't make their tasks any different. Both are tiling window managers. bspwm is functionally impotent without sxhkd.

n1,
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@thelinuxcast that's 100% correct and the reason, why I said that bspwm is a window manager, nothing else

10leej,
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@thelinuxcast river needs a config file wrote before it does anything. You can use the config in my dotfiles since it's pretty basic and the river github has some examples.

thelinuxcast,
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@10leej already have one. I'm not a complete idiot

10leej,
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@thelinuxcast Ah just figured you would've ran into the same issue I did when I first looked at river, lmao

thelinuxcast,
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@10leej
I think I just did something wrong. I’ll play around with them more today.

18+ JLW_the_Jobber,
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@thelinuxcast have you tried IceWM?

thelinuxcast,
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@JLW_the_Jobber Don't like floating wms

18+ JLW_the_Jobber,
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@thelinuxcast I assume window snapping is not good enough?

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