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As a master student I think it's a bad change. As far as I see, most students are pretty mediocre programmers. Someone with just one or two years of work experience would be much better than most bachelor graduates IMO.
@nixCraft this is as stupid as requiring in-office (as opposed to remote), you’re limiting the hiring pool. Probably a sign of lazy/incompetent or severely underfunded HR/recruiting.
As a self-taught programmer in the '90s in C/C++ I programmed my own games but I knew that I couldn't get ahead without one if I wanted to program other things than PHP web sites. I'm not going to argue that you absolutely need one but walking the walk helped me get further and remove those kind of uncertainties.
@nixCraft I mean, I currently am 13 and have, at 11, taught some people majoring at the UMN in CS some stuff(they also taught me a bunch btw), but I've heard horror stories about people being replaced by juniors or whatever, soo idk
@nixCraft My supervisor for almost 2 years was degreed in computer science and super knowledgeable. He's a good programmer and an awesome senior to have available for questions.
I'm self-taught and generally regarded as really good at this but it's largely because I'm aggressively autodidactic and genuinely love doing the best work I can do.
We're not as far apart as 2 degreed programmers, one who cares about doing good work and one who cares only about getting good pay.
@nixCraft this is mostly a governmental work place because they require a government-educated jobless individuals, but the question is: do they enable internal movement? I mean like a developer that educates themselves on the finance category, after spending enough time as a developer, can they apply internally for a position as, let's say, a treasury agent?
@ondrej@nixCraft Yep, I'm self taught myself and have worked with junior grads who, while often very smart, have a lot of knowledge gaps through lack of real world experience. It really is down to the person how much knowledge they have and soft skills are also very important in a team.
That being said, I would love to study CS myself and address my own knowledge gaps but I don't think it's logistically possible right now.
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