@tshirtman@ErikUden So one makes slightly better noises, and the only reason either of them might care about (interchangeable) masses is if they're able to be slotted into long-term plans for profits. How's that not the very definition of nuance? Sure you can draw fuzzy lines if you restrict your view to only capitalism, but as soon as you zoom out and look at the full picture, there are so many modes of governance which are /actually/ different in that /people/ come first.