@tshirtman@ErikUden Maybe it should. I don't have any problem with Democrats where they are, I just have a problem with there not being a further-left alternative. Say Trump wins this election. Either the DNC rethinks their strategy and moves left (we get at least some social gains) or it moves right and the left wing stops deluding itself that they have any hope within the party, so the Greens or someone become large enough people and the media take them seriously.