hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

"I bet I could prototype a website faster than you in my chosen language than you could in your chosen language."

What is this, grade school?

I'm pretty sure you could prototype a website faster in my chosen language than I could in the same language.

If you are going to talk about your frustrations with "machoism" then maybe start by asking yourself about why you think speed of implementing a website is a good test of literally anything.

That is all I have to say about that.

hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

Actually one more thing:

I do not like ruby and I do not like rails. Yes I have used both professionally. Yes I am aware of their plusses and minuses. I won't even claim that my bias here is wholly rational, but it is mine.

You can like it. You can not like it. You can think it is a criminally underrated language.

But why on earth would you think it is appropriate to come out of nowhere and argue with me about it by saying "I can prototype a website faster than you can."

What even.

phillmv,
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@hrefna it matters because it increases iteration velocity, and when you’re searching across the solution space then ability to iterate is a big determinant of success!

hrefna,
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@phillmv It does not—for more reasons than I even care to get into (though @sgf hits the nail on the head for one of the core reasons)—but I see no reason to argue here.

Also I still have no earthly idea why you are trying to pick this schoolyard fight with me just in general.

phillmv,
@phillmv@hachyderm.io avatar

@hrefna i felt triggered after seeing you express what i feel is an unjustified bias; we programmers are filled with superstitions which we cloak in the language of objective technical decisions.

i happened across your subtoot of our conversation here, but since you’re not interested i certainly won’t bother you any further.

cheers,

sgf,
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@phillmv @hrefna So what you want is a site that's easy to modify, which isn't necessarily the same as the quickest to build the initial cut of.

I'm not a web person, but I can iterate more quickly and confidently on a program with decent tests than one without, but building a first cut with comprehensive tests is slower than without.

hrefna,
@hrefna@hachyderm.io avatar

@sgf

"You spent the first day writing features, I spent the first day getting a CI/CD framework set up and the second integrating build quality controls, we are not the same"

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