Techaltar,
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My working theory is that people tend to think the "good" version of Windows is the N-1 one from today's

UnderEu,
@UnderEu@mas.to avatar

@Techaltar N-1 = N-one = None

got it!

aronkvh,
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@Techaltar no one really wanted windows 8 or Vista back, probably not many will want 11 back. it's like the cycle you described in some video

Techaltar,
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@aronkvh plenty of people insisted that W8 was better than W10 back when we switched 😁

kennergf,
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@Techaltar just proof of only gets worse

brawaru,
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@Techaltar I'm kinda with Matt here. I do like some changes they make to W11, but I still haven't recovered from loss of W10 Start menu. The new menu is so laggy and buggy, while providing significantly less functionality, and it's been a really hard hit after they removed start tiles.

I know there weren't many tiles, but I used it for clocks, todos, calendar, weather and other things, so it's incredibly sad that I can no longer just press Start to see weather or time in US, for example...

Techaltar,
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@brawaru Did the tiles ever work for you? I tried to make them work but there was always a lag, they weren't 100% updated and I couldn't trust that it wasn't showing me a state from, like, 6 hours ago which made them pointless to me. I liked them on Windows Mobile but never got around to using them on the desktop

brawaru,
@brawaru@mstdn.social avatar

@Techaltar they did work fairly reliably for me, and updated real-time, like world clocks all would refresh immediately a minute began, todos refreshed on updates. The only issues I had with them is when I managed to crash Explorer or otherwise improperly restart it, then the tiles were just app icons. The correct way to restart Explorer, as it turns out, is to go to Task manager, select Explorer and click Restart, not Exit it with Ctrl+Shift+RMB on taskbar and then Win+R explorer... 🫠

spudwart,
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@Techaltar Alternatively.

Microsoft follows a wave structure.

Windows 98 SE was loved. ME was hated and XP was liked. Windows vista was hated, windows 7 was liked. Windows 8 and 8.1 were despised. Windows 10 was reluctantly accepted.
Now Windows 11 is unbearable. I have no doubt that once Windows 11 adoption is significantly greater than 10 they'll make Windows 12 worse than 10 but better than 11.

It's a pretty genius "boil the frog" method for enshittification.

Uraael,

@Techaltar Gotta agree with him about that Start Menu. The W11 one is possibly the worst one since Windows began.

diogot,
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@Techaltar the corollary of that is: windows just get worst at each new version.
Jokes aside, I don't use Windows since XP. Is there any major improvement since then?

Uraael,
alda,
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@diogot @Techaltar "It looks like you are a fan of using Windows, so please tell me all the Windows features".

Techaltar,
@Techaltar@mas.to avatar

@diogot Ha, fair enough, I guess.
Jokes aside I do personally much prefer W11 over any previous version, both visually and in terms of features

nano,
@nano@fedi.nano.lgbt avatar

@Techaltar yeah i feel like ive also noticed this. the same people who hated windows 10 want it back now. maybe because every new version of windows shows everyone a whole next level of terribleness. although i feel like with windows 10 and windows 7, it was n-2 since windows vista and 8 were pretty hated to begin with

xerz,
@xerz@fedi.xerz.one avatar

@Techaltar “they changed thing I grew up with, new thing bad :(“

Techaltar,
@Techaltar@mas.to avatar

@xerz Accurate. Software should never change.

alda,
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@Techaltar @xerz This has so many things in common with Star Trek, especially the film series.

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