jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

Why is it
gaufre de Liège
(Given the town is Liège - note the accent)

But
gaufre liégeoise

And not
gaufre liègeoise
?

AngloPeranakan,
@AngloPeranakan@lingo.lol avatar

@jon French vowels are sensitive to whether they are in the final syllable of a word, and whether there is a following consonant (e.g. see the "loi de position"). This particular contrast is analogous to the difference between "protège" and "protéger".

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@AngloPeranakan I know. It’s not the sound difference I don’t understand. It’s why you’d change it this way. It seems illogical.

Island_Martha,
@Island_Martha@epicure.social avatar

@jon
If you get an accurate sounding answer to that question, please share it.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@Island_Martha see @sintzoff answer. That explains why, although it remains illogical in my view.

cweickhmann,
@cweickhmann@qoto.org avatar

@jon
Because the accent describes the pronounciation of the e. In Liège it’s close to the German ä. In liégeoise, it’s an actual e (simple e w/o accent is close to the German ö ou more so to the e at the end of words).

Why that vowel shifts exactly, I can’t tell. But after a while of speaking French it feels logical.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@cweickhmann sure I get the sound change the accent change makes. But if the gaufre is from Liège you ought to say it like Liège not Liége 🙂

sintzoff,
@sintzoff@mast.eu.org avatar

@jon previously Liège was written Liége and pronounced /lje̞ːʒ/. The adjective liégeoise is still pronounced
\lje.ʒwaz.

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@sintzoff ok, but why not then likewise change liégeois to liègeois ?

sintzoff,
@sintzoff@mast.eu.org avatar

@jon because most people still say liégeois

jon,
@jon@gruene.social avatar

@sintzoff but which way does it go? Fix the spelling then more people would say it right 🙂

jmaris,
@jmaris@eupolicy.social avatar

@jon because french

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