@rysiek I mean that's very effective but there's something I find charming about some of the absolutely cheesy wooden reading of adverts in podcasts and I was wondering how best to replicate this level of "Oh look I want to talk about my favourite <checks notes> toothpaste <checks notes> Colgate which <checks notes> always helps keep my teeth in good shape" its just like absolute chefs kiss levels of - someone paid for this? Does it work???