thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

"The entire experience feels just like a MacBook"

Seriously what is the point then?

Why would anyone not just get the laptop that has a lot more apps for it and an operating system that doesn't suck for multitasking?

panmanphil,
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@thomasfuchs I can't put a laptop on a music stand for charts, iOS based synths, loppers and such. I can't use a pen to sketch music. I'd love the iPad to be macos for sure, but only if battery life didn't suffer

thomasfuchs,
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@panmanphil I was referring specifically to the new keyboard attachment, which transforms the iPad into basically a Mac with really weird broken user interface

onyxraven,
@onyxraven@hachyderm.io avatar

@thomasfuchs yet again, I’d want to be able to ‘drop into’ regular macOS on a pro. Why won’t they just merge the pro and the MacBook Air?

samf,
@samf@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@thomasfuchs Because a folding touchscreen MacBook with detachable keyboard doesn't exist yet

thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

@samf yes, because no one needs that

samf,
@samf@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@thomasfuchs I mean, perhaps YOU don’t. But as a daily iPad + Magic Keyboard user, with use-cases that prefer the keyboard and trackpad while some prefer touch, I certainly would!

thomasfuchs,
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@samf There's a reason all these products have failed in the marketplace (like all the tablet-style computers that Microsoft made).

The laptop form factor is much more usable for 95% of use cases.

iPads are used mainly for media consumption and occasional web browsing and shopping; and in a very small niche for creativity applications.

samf,
@samf@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@thomasfuchs I think you're conflating your personal needs/experience with everyone's needs/experience here. This "very small niche" you speak of is multiple billion dollar industries.

WhyNotZoidberg,
@WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social avatar

@samf @thomasfuchs the market says otherwise. Combined pad / keyboard solutions have been attempted over and over and has always flopped.

thomasfuchs,
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io avatar

@samf They've been trying to make iPads happen for 15 years now for professional apps.

It's not happening. I don't know what you want me to tell you, but it's a fantasy to "revolutionize computing" they're after; similar with the Vision Pro.

Meanwhile, all their professional customers buy their laptops and desktops; with tablets mainly using by consumers for content consumption.

yatil,
@yatil@yatil.social avatar

@thomasfuchs @samf I think you underestimate how the iPad Pros are “halo cars” for them. Yeah, the use cases for the high-end might be contrived, but I’m sure there are people who grew up with touch screens that prefer iPad workflows more than I do.

yatil,
@yatil@yatil.social avatar

@samf @thomasfuchs Same. I am actually quite happy to use my iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard as my Leisure Computer while using my MacBook Pro for work stuff. The iPad works great for portrait reading, touch games, as second screen, and for the occasional handwritten note. Annotating screenshots is also something that I rather do on the iPad than on the Mac.

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