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@ramsey @paninid @fedwards9965 John C Calhoun was first exposed to ideas about secession during his time at Yale in 1804, where Federalists were exploring it essentially because they hated Jeffersonians. Many years later, Calhoun becomes John Quincy's VP and also Jackson's and he mentions secession once to Jackson who promptly lost his notorious temper so badly that historians say it delayed the civil war by 30 years because it scared the shit out of Calhoun, who quit his job as VP and went home

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