wolfsbruder,
@wolfsbruder@babka.social avatar

I can see why Israel rejected the final offer. The release of murderers from prison and the consequent solidification of Hamas's leadership are bad enough, but since when is the winning side in a defensive war expected to pay reparations to rebuild the aggressor without even a regime change? Imagine if WWII had ended with the Allies pouring all that money into Berlin without any alliance and propping up Donitz as Fuehrer.

This is all especially disturbing, when you consider that literally the only consideration offered by Hamas was the release of civilian hostages seized in peacetime. No reparations to the hostages or to the families of the civilians murdered on October 7th, no dismantling of military infrastructure--not even a commitment for Hamas to cease its own military operations (missile attacks on civilian populations) while Israel withdraws. All they're prepared to commit to is to stop holding some of their kidnapping victims. That's one helluva ransom demand.

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emmaaum,
@emmaaum@zirk.us avatar

@wolfsbruder Hamas' "offer" was basically Set us up to be more successful the next time we go against you and we'll give you some bodies and who knows maybe some of them will still be alive. And if you say no, we're going to tell the world you're at fault.

wolfsbruder,
@wolfsbruder@babka.social avatar

@emmaaum

And the world already believes that Yisroel is at fault.

Yisroel has always sucked at propaganda and openness.

Now Bibi and Likud have completely fucked Yisroel, but that's his government, not the people.

Bibi needs out, and Likud needs to follow the Khanist party's example, e.g., being disbanded and being banned from politics.

Hamas controls the narrative, and it is the story the world believes, even though most of it really isn't the truth.

[again Bibi and Likud need to go]

NaturaArtisMagistra,
@NaturaArtisMagistra@mastodon.world avatar

@wolfsbruder @emmaaum

hamas THINKS they control the narrative

the truth is slow but inexorable

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