siblingpastry, (edited )
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fyi. Sonoma 14.5 includes some changes to the QuickNav feature in VoiceOver, and after I updated, it was turned on by default.

Some hours of confusedly testing why none of my JS key handling scripts are working anymore, turned out to be that -- unmodified arrows and navigation keys aren't passed through to JavaScript when QuickNav is on.

(You have to hold Option. I don't know if that was always the case, I didn't know about QuickNav until today.)

siblingpastry,
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There was also a Heisenbug where aria-live regions completely stopped working. But I can't reproduce that now, all variants work fine, so no idea wtf.

siblingpastry,
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But in the course of testing to determine this, I've also learned that interactive grids work in VoiceOver now (e.g., https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/patterns/grid/examples/data-grids/)

That's definitely new, right? I didn't just hallucinate it not working for the last couple of years??

meduz,
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@siblingpastry On my side it’s the setting in “Web / general / automatically read the web page” that has been re-enabled after update.

Like you load a URL and it goes through all the page elements. Is it a wanted default for regular users?

siblingpastry,
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@meduz I think that's the usual default, yeah.

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