yeahiknow3,

Einstein was a physicist who also considered himself a philosopher, and it shows in his careful thinking. Totally unlike modern physicists, who are only good at math and that’s about it.

Vorticity,

What makes you think there aren’t modern physicists who are also philosophical?

As someone with a physics degree, I can say that there physicists have, do, and always will include people who focus only on the math and science and others who incorporate philosophy into their values and world view.

captainlezbian,

Yeah, people from all walks of life live with the burden of unfettered curiosity. Such people are typically drawn to fields like physics but many will also find interest in philosophy and humanities and everything really. There’s just so much to know about so many things

davel,
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This was dated April 10, 1948, when the Nakba had already begun. ifamericansknew.org/history/ter-einstein.html

dsemy,

Einstein is known to have supported the Labor Zionism movement, and to have opposed groups such as Irgun (considered to be terrorists by many).

The letter doesn’t even have the word Zionist in it

Edit: From Wikipedia:

When Israeli President Chaim Weizmann died in 1952, Einstein was asked to be Israel’s second president, but he declined, stating that he had “neither the natural ability nor the experience to deal with human beings.” He wrote: “I am deeply moved by the offer from our State of Israel, and at once saddened and ashamed that I cannot accept it.”

Pretty sure he was a Zionist

davel,
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Einstein may have supported Labor Zionism, until it betrayed its purported socialist principles.

Labor Zionists played a leading role in the 1947–1949 Palestine War, and had a dominant presence among the leadership of the Israel Defense Forces for decades after the independence of the State of Israel during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War.

Zionist Left: The ‘Pacifist’ Arm of the Nakba

dsemy,

Einstein may have supported Labor Zionism, until it betrayed its purported socialist principles.

You’re making shit up

He took the draft of a speech he was preparing for a television appearance commemorating the state of Israel’s seventh anniversary with him to the hospital, but he did not live to complete it. In the draft he speaks about the dangers facing Israel and says “It is anomalous that world opinion should only criticize Israel’s response to hostility and should not actively seek to bring an end to the Arab hostility which is the root cause of the tension.”

…wikipedia.org/…/Political_views_of_Albert_Einste…

davel,
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I’m not making shit up, as the letter that OP posted plainly shows. I made no claim that he stopped believing in Zionism as a concept, only that he stopped supporting the actual Zionists in Israel who were ethnically cleansing Palestine in 1948. And if he’d actually actually drafted that supposed 1955 speech as Israel claims, then I’d say that he was no Einstein. That sounds like some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_of_Israel to me.

dsemy,

The letter plainly shows he doesn’t support terrorists. As I wrote in my original comment, it makes no reference to Zionism at all.

You’re claiming that draft, that I had to tell you about, which was written 7 years after the establishment of the state of Israel (when it was barely a functioning state) is Hasbara?

Edit: Also, if he was against Zionism, why was he ashamed he couldn’t accept being Israel’s president? Why was he moved by the offer?

davel,
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You’re claiming that draft, that I had to tell you about, which was written 7 years after the establishment of the state of Israel (when it was barely a functioning state) is Hasbara?

I’m not claiming that the draft speech and its contents are hasbara, only that I suspect they might be, and that if they aren’t, then I think less of Einstein if he wrote that, “the Arab hostility […] is the root cause of the tension,” because I think the root cause is Western settler-colonialism.

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