Everyone thinks they’re talking about the human skull and nervous system but if someone is sitting in ther bedroom on a PC it’s really not all that different from being a brain in a jar, it’s just a different interface and the brain can leave.
yeah I mean I could see not knowing platos cave but boltzman brains are mentioned pretty often in various media including sprinkled regularly in youtube videos. Im surprised someone could avoid it.
The allegory of the cave is about people who are under an illusion and reject evidence to the contrary. Hence why it has “allegory” in the name, you know. I can’t really do anything about being told my brain gets no light and no one’s proposing we kill the person who said it, and the point isn’t that we shouldn’t kill them, so it’s not really anywhere near the same.
Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, while focused on the rejection of evidence and moral implications, also deeply explores perception and our understanding based on sensory experiences. This theme resonates with the shower thought about the brain being in a dark chamber, reliant on sensory “wires” for information. The allegory illustrates how our perception of reality, like the prisoners viewing shadows in the cave, is limited and shaped by our sensory experiences.
The shower thought and Plato’s allegory both suggest that our understanding of the external world is constrained by these sensory inputs. Just as the prisoners in the cave perceive shadows as their entire reality, our brain, encased in the skull, constructs its version of reality based on what our senses convey. This comparison highlights how our perception might be just a fraction of the true nature of the external world.
In linking the shower thought to the allegory, the aim was not to draw a literal comparison but to underscore the shared theme of perceptual limitation and reality versus illusion. This metaphor serves to reflect on how our subjective experiences shape our understanding of the world, akin to how the brain, in its ‘sealed chamber,’ interprets the information it receives.
Again, sorry you failed to connect the dots. Figured it was obvious enough to not have to write an essay to explain it.
In linking the shower thought to the allegory, the aim was not to draw a literal comparison but to underscore the shared theme of perceptual limitation and reality versus illusion.
But you didn’t say that! You just said, via text of all things, this shower thought is the allegory of the cave. So it’s no wonder some people aren’t connecting your dots. You could stand to be less arrogant about it.
Going on like you’re interested in philosophy and saying things like “y’all are dumb as fuck”, especially in this context, are incongruous and you really missed a great opportunity to stay quiet.
Acting like common slang is somehow incongruous with “philosophical” conversation and voicing that opinion is hilariously hypocritical. I urge you to consider what it is about that language that upsets you so much and take some time to work on it. I use common slang mostly because the point is obvious and using big words makes people feel like the speaker thinks they are above everyone they are speaking to. I wrote out that entire long ass sentence instead of saying you sound like a conceited jackass because I know you edge from unnecessarily long phrases.
But he didn’t say “this shower thought is the allegory of the cave” did he? He suggested a relationship between them by encouraging the op to familiarise themselves with the allegory of the cave. More of “if you liked this, you’ll love that” than “this is that”.
I don’t think it’s that farfetched to take that as “your shower thought is the story I’ve just mentioned”. In fact it strikes me as more likely than just drawing a comparison even in hindsight and this conversation is about four times longer than it should be.
Your eyes are a part of your brain.
So the only part of your brain that does receive light, is located outside of this dark room. Inside the dark room, there is nothing that senses light or darkness.
Yea, I was gonna say, it’s really wet in there too. But at least it’s got a snug blankie membrane of sorts that does all its local feeling for it, since it couldn’t actually detect any of these things for itself with no nerve endings of its own.
To explain why, the electrical signals is not like how we know electricity like when you see lightning. It’s salt/ion based movements in and out of cells. A lot more boring
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