Neelix was awful, and probably made worse because I wanted to like him from the start.
Without getting into Kes - which compounded the Neelix problem for me - I started to hate him less in the last few seasons when he went all dark sad clown. I was still viscerally annoyed, but he turned into almost a Michael Scott type character. He was horrible, but you could see the the pain that made him that way.
I hadn't even thought about the comparison to Guinan or Quark. The comparison makes Neelix so much worse. Guinan didn't need a redemption arc . Quark had a good one. Neither of them were annoying.
Guinan gained a threatening arc, if anything. The ultra calm, compassionate counselor that scared gods like Q, and could swing a mean rifle when she needed to.
I used to dislike Neelix, but I got over it after watching the series a few times. Voyager has some really great episodes and some really bad ones, more than the other series, it seems. Neelix and Kes both used to annoy me, but I don't mind them now. He's in some good episodes, too.
Just imagine what the crew had to go through… Kinda surprising that Tuvix didn’t have any support since splitting him up would mean that Neelix is back.
It's my favourite as well. My parents watched TNG and DS9 when I was a kid, but Voyager was the first Trek that I went out of my way myself to watch. Kathryn Janeway is high on my list of personal (albeit fictional) heroes.
VOY is the most scientifically illiterate of all Trek series. They tried to sound at least as “sciency” as TNG, but:
They spent half a season searching ores on planets while mentioning a gas
They invented the “iso-” pseudo prefix to hide they didn’t understand the metric system (in a prior episode they were alarmed by a cosmic event generating as little pressure as 10 atmospheres).
@Thorry84@xilliah I’ve done a lot of tech trouble shooting, sounds about right. It’s always something really dumb that you never would have imagined+hardware failure.
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