Overwhelmed a bit with fediverse redundancy.

bbbutch, 10 months ago

same here. what's even more confusing to me is that, for example, i can look at this from from my lemmy account at https://feddit.de/post/783808 and see a few comments; but if i search this post from kbin and looking at it there https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.ml/t/10402/Overwhelmed-a-bit-with-fediverse-redundancy i only see one other comment, but not the ones i see on here at lemmy.

i like the UI more from kbin, it's more customizable, but i really don't know with which platform i should subscribe to communities / magazines / threads / whatever the name is, and which account to use.

Another thing that turns me away from kbin is the "The magazine from the federated server may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance" message that appears basically in every magazine. Does that mean it stays that way? Is it syncing? I dont understand it

Nigel-Tee79, 10 months ago

I'm on kbin now. But kbin search feature sucks for other instances. I have to input technology@lemmy.ml into kbin url to access this sub. Didn't get a approval from lemmy.ml to sign up so have to go on kbin. :( :(

xx3r, 10 months ago

• Basically, Mastodon is a microblogging platform which makes it can be alternative to Twitter or Tumblr.
• Lemmy is a social news aggregator which makes it alternative to Reddit or Digg.
• I haven't used kbin, but it describes itself as both. So if you like to have both the features of microblogging and content aggregators at the same platform, go try it. Kbin can do this because it and the former two uses ActivityPub, aka they are in the Fediverse so you can see and follow content from each other's platforms, just presented in the format of the platform you're in (imagine Twitter posts in your Instagram feed).

I started with Mastodon and I'm new here on Lemmy. I think Reddit alternatives are pretty straightforward in the Fediverse. I'm here at Lemmy because it's the most obvious what I came for with Reddit.
Meanwhile, Twitter alternatives here are a can of worms. There's Mastodon, Misskey, Pleroma, Gnusocial, etc. and all of their individual forks, competing with how much "micro" or how much "blogging" each have. Luckily, with Activitypub, content are shared with each other.

talon, 10 months ago

@xx3r @jezebelley pretty sure you can also reply to posts from other platforms. If this works, hi from Hometown/Mastodon!

crmsnbleyd, 10 months ago

@talon @xx3r @jezebelley it works!

shortwavesurfer, 10 months ago

They all talk to each other.

From my mastodon account i can:

• follow sublemmys
• follow lemmy users
• comment on lemmy posts
• comment on lemmy comments
• share lemmy posts
• share lemmy comments

From my lemmy account i can:

• follow mastodon users
• comment on mastodon users posts
• comment on mastodon users comments
• crosspost mastodon users posts to sublemmys

While i have never used kbin i have no doubt that it can do everything listed above.

Really the fediverse is a "choose your own interface" kinda place. Do you understand reddit UI best? Use lemmy. Does twitter UI make sense to you? Use mastodon. Do you like both? Use both for different reasons. Either way you can interact with anyone, using anything, anywhere that uses activitypub and anyone, from anywhere, using anything supporting activitypub can interact with you. That is the whole point. Get rid of the silo social media so you never have to lose your social graph again because you moved to a new service they are not on

cambionn, 10 months ago

Personally, I'm sticking to Lemmy and Mastodon for now. I like things seperated. Heck, I even have 3 different Mastodon accounts for different purposes.

I wasn't a fan wel YT and insta started doing short videos alla TikTok. I wasn't a fan of stories in my chat app. Etc etc.

Now I quit using most conventional SNS ages ago, and never used others. But I still feel the same way. Luckily, the good thing of decentralised stuff is that it uses the same protocol, and I can still interact with people who do want everything in one place and use kbin while I don't have to.

Nankeru, 10 months ago

Lemmy is more of a Reddit alternative, where you have the focus on communities/categories (similar to "subreddits") to which you can subscribe to, while Mastodon is more a Twitter alternative, focusing on users to follow.

Kbin is actually slightly special.

It is also running on the Fediverse network, but can communicate with multiple other services. Meaning, it can show you content from all Lemmy instances (called Threads) and content from Mastodon (called Microblog). You can see this thread there as well.

By using Kbin, you have access to both worlds, Lemmy and Mastodon. In addition, it supports even more of the so-called "ActivityPub" services, like Pleroma or Peertube.

While I love the implementation of Kbin, it still has small hiccups here and there - it feels less reliable/stable. Some content isn't fully updated, like this post missing most of the comments at the time I posted this. They even warn you about it: "The magazine from the federated server may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance."

I had the best experience so far by using a Lemmy instance for Lemmy and a Mastodon instance for Mastodon. Waiting for Kbin to be more mature.

knova, 10 months ago

FYI, Lemmy uses ActivityPub too. It is fully compatible with other fediverse services. Just not executed as cleanly as kbin.

simple, 10 months ago

I'm currently on kbin and it really is just preference which one you stick with. Like you said, Kbin and Lemmy can communicate with one another. Kbin has more features and better integration with Mastodon, but Lemmy is a simpler platform that isn't as confusing to get used to.

AdmiralSnackbar, 10 months ago

Would you think, then, that Lemmy will have more users than kbin due to the simplicity? Does it even matter? I'm new to all of this fediverse stuff. When you say 'communicate', does that mean posts here will be visible on Lemmy and vice-versa?

simple, 10 months ago

When you say 'communicate', does that mean posts here will be visible on Lemmy and vice-versa?

Yup! I saw your post from Kbin.

Would you think, then, that Lemmy will have more users than kbin due to the simplicity? Does it even matter?

Yes, Lemmy is the more popular option currently. No, it doesn't really matter that much. Feel free to stick to Lemmy or try https://kbin.social/ , but the content is pretty much the same.