Nobody,

I’m still not seeing why Israel is being treated as a priority over or at least equal to Ukraine. Ukraine is up against a legitimately strong adversary using human wave tactics. Israel is dropping bombs seemingly indiscriminately on mostly civilians. Ukraine is fighting for its existence. Israel is getting revenge on its much, much weaker neighbor.

If Iran and its proxies enter the war, that might change the calculations, but that hasn’t happened yet.

glimse,

Israel is also rich as fuck with a strong military. They do not need financial support.

thilo,
@thilo@lemmy.ml avatar

But politicians elsewhere need israeli support (to get voted they believe)

Cannacheques,

NSO group would like a word with you

bioemerl,

Republicans like Israel and don't (all) like Ukraine

PilferJynx,

Agreed. Isreal doesn’t need help putting the boot on helpless children.

hitmyspot,

And the more support Israel gets to kill those civilians the more likely sympathetic regional neighbours would be inclined to join. And rightly so. It’s genocide.

zerfuffle,

Agreed. Even if Iran enters the war, it will be to stop a genocide. I don’t understand why the US is so keen to tie themselves to Netanyahu’s government.

teichflamme,

Yeah, Iran is known as a moral beacon in the region, holding up human rights.

The only reason they would enter a war is, of course, to stop a so called genocide

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

US and Isntreal share the same settler colonial ideology and history. Native Americans or Palestinians, its all about genociding the “uncivilised tribal hordes” to make space for themselves.

CountryBreakfast,
@CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Exactly. Any threat to Israel is a threat to US legitimacy.

Illuminostro,

It’s a strategic foothold in the region for the US. And “Jeebus.”

Pasta4u,

We have already given the Ukraine over a 100b in funds. We don’t need to give them anymore. I also don’t want us to give aid to anyone.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Ukraine was never about Ukraine. It was about NATO’s attempt to balkanise Russia, as said by US ex-VP Dick Cheney. It was about the attempted CIA coup during 2003 Orange protests, which failed, and another CIA attempt at 2013 Euromaidan protests, which succeeded, overthrowing sovereignty and democracy, installing US puppet, installing biochemical factories for genocide attempt against Russia, and to make more money for military weapons industry.

It was all about USA using Ukraine as a condom to fuck with Russia, and the whole NATO failed in unison.

stewie3128,

Would be great if he said that about funding the American government.

supersane,

At this point, I can confidently say that Israel controls America.

HornyOnMain,

Claiming that Israel controls America is kinda anti semitic (not because it’s anti Israeli or anything ofc) because it’s basically a repackaging of the whole “Jews control the government” thing.

What’s actually happening is that Israel is a US puppet state thats been given free reign and a blank check to do as much fascism as it wants as long as it keeps protecting the US’s interests in the middle east. The US is still in control, it’s just choosing that rather than exerting that control to do anything to stop Israel it’s going to give it the go ahead to do whatever the fuck it wants instead.

Karyoplasma,

Not quite true. Israel gets a lot of support from the US government because it’s a useful ally.

It’s the vanguard in the coveted Middle Eastern region (lots of oil) that is incidentally hated by everyone around them so you can easily use their status to provoke proxy wars, then invade and claim plausible deniability by saying you just helped out your ally.

I_am_10_squirrels,

Plus the delicious state surveillance tools

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Nah fam. Miss me with that nonsense. Why would a tiny nation control the US? They have influence with American interests in many ways, but control it? It makes no sense. The only position that this would make sense from is the same antisemetic cabal bullshit. A small group controls the world alright. The wealthy, most of whom are white Christians. They control things, not Jews.

mar_k,
@mar_k@hexbear.net avatar

Other way around, they’re basically a US satellite state if anything. Biden said it himself, “if there wasn’t an Israel we would have to invent one.”

Here’s a graph showing the countries that voted most closely in line with the US in the UN across the past couple decades:

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5f17bdce-7536-4214-99ae-5f78417be988.png

The three dots behind Israel are former US Pacific Island territories that are currently US puppet states and officially give away much of their sovereignty to America under COFA. If you exclude those three, Israel aligns itself with America miles ahead of any other country.

FriendBesto,

Ain’t that illegal?

krzschlss,
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

Genocide is illegal (I think, it’s kinda blurry for decades now). Don’t see those people concerned about it. I don’t think these people care about law. They bend it to their will, like they do with their tax-paying citizenry who vote and pay for them.

Hestia,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

Honestly feeling like Trump is the lesser evil now… Genocide Joe has always been quite zealous in his support of Isntreal.

kandoh,

Yeah maybe the guy who instituted a Muslim ban would be more supportive of the Palestinian people, good thought.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Okay, but imagine if Democratic Party was united against Trump in support of Palestinian people.

Without him in power to sharpen the contradictions, liberals fall into the trap of bipartisan consensus.

kandoh,

Consider Bernie and Fetterman’s statements. Mixed with the fact that only 17% of DNC staff signed the later asking Biden to pressure Israel to give a ounce of shit about people in Gaza.

If this was a Trump administration, we’d be ignoring what isreal is doing because we’d be fighting tooth and nail trying to protect Palestinians in America from being deported or placed into camps.

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Bernie won’t even fucking endorse a ceasefire.

GarbageShoot,

I think that’s grass-is-greener thinking and the lesson is that both the good cop and the bad cop work for the same police department.

HornyOnMain,

Nah that’s dumb, Trump wouldn’t try to stop this happening, at all. And even if he tried to do something out of pure contrarianism, this isn’t something that his handlers would let him fuck up

Bloobish,

Oh cool modern day Iran-Contra is gonna happen but with more genocide yes-honey-left

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

He really does think this is his holy mission to bring about the yadda yadda biblical prophecy huh?

GreenTeaRedFlag,

Which is super weird because he’s catholic and we don’t really, uh, follow the book of revelations. That weird ass prophecy is a Baptist thing

CanadaPlus,

I get why - congress is increasingly useless - but there’s obvious accountability problems there.

GarbageShoot,

Accountability problems with funneling infinite weapons to an Apartheid settler state? No way, the US has a high degree of integrity about such things

Thief_of_Crows,

Yeah, name 50 times we’ve ever done that specific crime!

Outdoor_Catgirl,
@Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net avatar

Genocide Joe knows how evil it is, and wants to continue arming the zionist entity. Monstrous bastard.

Redrum714,

Fighting terrorists isn’t cheap

TheLastHero,

Spineless, pathetic cowardice. I mean we already knew that about Democrats but this just indicts the entire administration as such. Israel makes no apologies for their slaughter, they just don’t give a shit, but this means that Genocide Joe and Co. KNOW this is wrong and they’ll still bend over backwards just to kill a foreigner.

Zero attempts at “harm reduction” pfff, they’re actively taking steps to make the harm (literal bombing of children) worse. I live in a swing state, so when I throw my vote away I’ll get to feel proud knowing it was worth even more. Glory to the martyrs and may “Israel” and her American dog be annihilated.

krzschlss,
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t like this trend! War movies in 10-20 years will be boring. No Rambos, no Schwarzeneggers, no Spielberg and Tom Hanks emotional patriotism! No funny casual racism, no casual homophobia, no casual misoginy… Did Mark Hamil play a terrorist in Star Trek after all? The End of an Era. We’re gonna have to watch films about how a bribed White House politicant struggles to keep up with weapon manufacture demands while managing to convince his wife not to divorce him because she feels neglected since he’s never at home… directed by Clint Eastwood.

That’s boring. I’m out!

Madison420,

Star Wars.

AngryCommieKender,

That was Reagan. It never worked, but we did get some useful stuff out of the project.

Madison420,

No, Mark hamil was on Star wars not star trek, they never let him guest appear to prevent confusion and to not make a running joke that wouldn’t ever die.

AngryCommieKender,

I understood what you were saying. I was making a joke

HornyOnMain,
@HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml avatar

We’re just going to get Don’t Mess With the Zohan 2 but in a ‘shoot then cry’ kind of way

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Here is the evidence for all the people that think Democrats are angels and Republicans are devils. Both parties are two wings of US Nazi Eagle, and both have caused wars for 232 out of the 247 years USA has existed.

Filthmontane,

Well that’s not suspicious at all.

watson387,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

Fuck Israel. We shouldn’t be supporting them at all.

Omega_Haxors,

They would fold under even the littlest bit of BDS, but that’s not going to happen because the US sees themselves in Israel.

Bartsbigbugbag,

Thus why nearly every state has made it illegal for any company that works with the government to be BDS-positive.

TryingToEscapeTarkov,

Which shows you America Is ran by foreign interests.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Isntreal is not controlling USA, its the opposite. USA sees a microcosm of their own in Isntreal, sharing the exact same kind of genocide and settler colonisation, be it Native Americans or indigenous Palestinians.

gnuhaut,

Biden said something like: “If there was no Israel, we’d have to invent it.”

The US loves having a highly militarized, violent, totally amoral and 100% US-dependent proxy next to all those oil fields. The last thing the US wants is peace in the middle east. This is just divide-and-conquer 101.

OurToothbrush,

Other way around. Israel is a us proxy state

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