strypey, (edited ) to random
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: As a citizen journalist, I want mobile micro-posting apps that don't publish posts to my public feed. But do allow me to take rough notes for future posts, including media attachments, etc, and push them as drafts to the server hosting my account. So I can edit them using a device with a proper keyboard and a decent size screen, and publish them from there.

strypey, to random
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Micro-posting (a la Mastodon) apps offer an interface optimalised for short text and image posts, which seem to work better for chatty exchanges than for fruitful long form argumentation. Yet most of us have fallen for the temptation to let casual chats become friendship-ending arguments.

What if we could tag a reply as "debate" - or the author could - and it greyed out the reply button on that post. Obviously this would be a setting that can be toggled on and off.

tyil,

@strypey Being unable to say anything in response to one's argument doesn't sound like a "debate" to me, that's just going to be abused thoroughly to ruin people's days.

If your friendship ends with someone over a silly post on a social media network, I'd argue it is better to simply find better people to be friends with.

strypey,
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@tyil
> Being unable to say anything in response to one's argument doesn't sound like a "debate" to me

As I said, this would be a setting that can be toggled on and off by the receiver. So they can choose whether or not to engage in contentious debates in a short form medium. I ran out of characters to specify "by the receiver", but I thought that was obvious given the context.

strypey, to random
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"I wonder if a new scheme idenitifying Mastodon URLs would be useful here. I initially suggested masto, but didn’t particularly like that. @byterhymer suggested fedi or ap, and while I tend to prefer ap, it might not be the best choice, either."

, 2023

https://jetforme.org/2023/01/a-better-scheme-for-fediverse/

One for the repo?

What about apub? It makes it clearer that what's being abbreviated is ActivityPub and as a bonus, it reads like your neighborhood watering hole ; )

smallcircles, to fediverse
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Hi there @ashleykolodziej 👋

I'd like to give a heads-up to movement where I'm involved and plan to revive the notion of or Social experience design, esp. for the .

https://discuss.coding.social

Your toot triggered a nice discussion in the repo: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/44

So much chatter on is either deeply technical or app-specific. The field of SX may offer a more holistic and inclusive perspective, focus on methods, guidance and best-practices.

smallcircles,
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@ashleykolodziej in the thread with @dahukanna I mentioned "movement" vs. "community", spontaneous emergence and DoOcracy.

That sounds a bit overly casual, but just indicates it is up to anyone to give their twist to the SX field exploration. And ideally based on having the incentives to do so, and thus intrinsic motivation.

More concretely I'm thinking on having something akin to working groups (called Fellowships) with clear scope and focus, based on interest for particular themes within SX.

smallcircles,
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@ashleykolodziej @dahukanna

Related to the that @helge posted, I had an earlier discussion, see: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/111452714189298376

It's just a sketch in a different context (a Fediverse of fine-grained components & services instead of big siloed apps. ). It only depicts how a timeline might be richer.

One aspect of may be to show what is possible in federated , in order to inspire and envision a future .

https://discuss.coding.social/t/challenge-adopt-a-shared-technology-vision-for-the-fediverse/45

shoq, to random
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I’d like to see things developed in the fediverse that everyone comes to recognize as a core value of the network. The crowd potential is enormous. It could be big and important things, or just delightful or inspiring things. I only have a few such now. But I bet we could find dozens.

strypey, to fediverse
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Mute Post

Clicking on it prevents a post from appearing in a thread when viewed on the web version of the server hosting my account. Eg;

A reply to my post uses an offensive term in the heat of the moment. I don't want to feed the trolls by replying, but I don't want people thinking I endorse that kind of hateful language. So I click Mute Post, and and anyone who views my account on Mastodon.nzoss.nz won't see it.

RedRobyn,
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@strypey
Yeah, there's the two separate issues of a name that people immediately recognise for the function and exactly how the function works.
Whilst I would like to be able to show that I do not condone the words or sentiment in a post, and wanting a tool to stop people using highly boosted threads to amplify the reach of vileness; making reply posts vanish from all visibility might be a step too far. Dunno. I'm not a free speech absolutist, just pondering

strypey,
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@RedRobyn
> making reply posts vanish from all visibility might be a step too far

That's not possible in the fediverse. The only thing we can control is what happens on our own account/ server. People who point their browser at the server of the person who posted the offensive term can still see a version of the thread including the post. Same with anyone else in the thread that didn't also Hide Post.

strypey, to fediverse
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I'd really like to use apps that can delay notifications of a reply until 24 hours (or ideally whatever delay I set) after the time I made the post it's replying to. I think I've said this before, but last night (while baked) I tried to pseudocode it, and today I put it up in the fediverse ideas bank:

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/40

strypey,
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Perhaps I need to modify my proposal with some reasoning.

I find that I can have really insightful debates here, that play out slowly over weeks or months. But if I reply, then see the response in the same session, and reply again, my reply is much more likely to be terse and aggressive (as I see when read again later).

Even if I can maintain a respectful tone, a quick reply is never as constructive as one sent after another 24 hours of thinking about the thread so far.

strypey, to random
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You know what I'd really like? Notifications categorised by "temperature".

Say I get a reply from a ranter whose misinformed post I do eventually want to correct. I want to rate their post (or the whole thread) as "hot", so all their posts in that thread (or all posts in the thread) are moved to a separate list of "hot" notifications. That way I can continue to browse and respond to "warm" or "cold" replies, without having more ranting shoved in my face if I'm not in the mood.

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