rameshgupta, to random
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After 75 years of failure, one would imagine that a people would learn what works and what doesn’t, both from their own experience, as well as the experience of others.

https://apnews.com/video/gaza-strip-israel-israel-hamas-war-war-and-unrest-israel-government-c28d7cc667e94e94ac97a7a460a90985

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rameshgupta,
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A generation after 1967, the involved no armies on distant fronts. There was a campaign of attacks against civilians… together with a campaign of in Israeli cities.

In the it looked less like either a or a conventional war and more like an or a campaign by an occupying army that took years to settle down into a victory on the Israeli side.

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rameshgupta,
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As happened 30 and 50 years before, in the months after and well into the , the rhetoric was as militant as ever, and triumphalist too.

Moderates held that a of could improve the position in any future negotiation 🙄

Less-moderate voices hoped that violence could replicate ’s success in forcing a full withdrawal from without Israel receiving anything in return

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swarming, to Israel
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“Muhammad Daraghmeh, age seventeen, killed himself and five other children when he carried out a suicide attack for the al-Aqsa Brigades on March 2, 2002, in an orthodox neighborhood of Jerusalem (eleven civilians were killed and almost fifty wounded).

In another al-Aqsa Brigades attack in a park in Rishon Letzion on May 22, 2002, Issa Bdeir, age sixteen, killed two civilians and injured at least twenty-four.

The third child bomber was Majd Atta, seventeen, who killed himself and injured five others in an attack on a falafel shop in central Jerusalem on July 30, 2002.”

Source: ‘Erased in a Moment: Suicide Bombing Attacks Against Israeli Civilians’ by Human Rights Watch (2002), p. 90

skaly, to Israel
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"Zionists all hate Palestinians and want to ethnic cleanse them."
Literally every Zionist and Jewish protest:
100k people singing songs for peace together
We don't want this war. Never did. We love being the only democracy and only safe state in the middle east for LGBTQIA+ folks. We love each other, love our Beduin, Druze and Muslim Israeli brothers and sisters. We want peace. But then Gazans behead our children while screaming "Yehud" (Jews) and the world denies it. Then there's war.

rameshgupta,
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>> A regime of Jewish supremacy from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea: This is apartheid

Have you been living under a rock through the and , particularly the latter?

>> we are somehow supposed to support Jewish claims to the land based on the Torah and therefore we should be okay with the massive displacement, murder, and pillage that characterized the formation of the state of Israel?

Even ignoring and ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

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