DenisCOVIDinfoguy, to auscovid19
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"Scientists from one of the country’s foremost infectious diseases institutes, the Kirby Institute at the University of NSW, have concluded a lab leak cannot be dismissed as a plausible theory for the pandemic’s origin"

@auscovid19

Study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/risa.14291

Source: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theaustralian.com.au%2Fnation%2Fmajor-scientific-paper-says-covid-lab-leak-more-likely-than-natural-origin%2Fnews-story%2F8f1f767104370c891f13f5daaef44b6e&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-1-SCORE&V21spcbehaviour=append

Researchers, led by pandemic expert professor Raina MacIntyre, employed an established epidemiological risk scoring method known as the Grunow-Finke tool and applied it to known information about the origins of the pandemic. Professor MacIntyre became well known in the early days of the pandemic for her expertise on biosecurity and strong support for tough lockdown measures. The analysis is in contrast to genetic analysis generally employed by virologists to try to ascertain the virus’s origins. “An unnatural origin of SARS-COV-2 is plausible, and our application of the Grunow-Finke tool suggests it is equally or more probable than a natural origin, although both remain possible,” the Kirby researchers concluded. The paper, published in the journal Risk Analysis, argued that although most scientific analysis has dismissed a lab accident as unlikely, a range of different lines of evidence should be applied to analysing the pandemic origins, including not only biology and virology but also intelligence from government and military sources. “The gathering of intelligence may include open source, signals or satellite intelligence, political factors, as well as other ‘detective work’ to piece together the complex question of the origin of SARS-COV-2,” the paper said. “This would include full records of viruses housed at the relevant laboratories, of experiments conducted, and records of accidents and illness among staff.
The findings are in contrast to the World Health Organisation’s conclusion that a lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which was studying bat coronaviruses, was “extremely unlikely”. The lab leak theory has been cast by many scientists as a conspiracy theory. US intelligence agencies have been divided in their conclusions, with two agencies favouring the lab leak theory. However, the US Office of the Director of National Intelligence said it had no information that indicated the work of Wuhan scientists was the likely source of the pandemic. Professor MacIntyre’s team analysed factors including biological risk factors associated with the Wuhan virologists’ work, the fact that SARS-CoV-2 was a highly unusual strain of coronavirus best adapted to humans and not animals, which is consistent with gain-of-function research rather than a spillover event from another species, the peculiarities of geographic distribution, the high concentration of the biological agent in the environment in Wuhan, the intensity and dynamics of the epidemic and its unusually fast spread, the specific clinical manifestations of the disease and the fact that human-to-human transmission is the dominant mode of transmission. Using a modified GFT, the team’s result showed 68 per cent of these factors indicated SARS-CoV-2 is more likely to have an unnatural origin. It documented a series of unusual actions at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

alexwild, to random
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Sometimes, a conspiracy theory becomes a real conspiracy when its idiot proponents are rich enough.

https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366553435/Top-science-journal-faced-secret-attacks-from-Covid-conspiracy-theory-group

anti_disease, to california

Police crack down on clandestine virus lab in a Californian warehouse. The lab featured:

🦠 Tissue samples included HIV, Hepatitis and Covid-19,

🦠 A thousand humanized rats, bioengineered to catch and spread Covid-19,

🦠 800 different chemicals, many categorized as ‘unknown chemicals’

Insider: »An illegal lab in California containing nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice has officials concerned after improperly stored tissue samples were tested and discovered to contain infectious diseases including HIV and Hepatitis. […]

The makeshift lab contained roughly 30 refrigerators and freezers — some of which were non-operational — as well as incubators, medical testing supplies, and hundreds of mice. Several disease samples tested from the lab included infectious agents like herpes, coronavirus, E. Coli, and malaria, SFist reported.

Wang Zhaolin, a representative of the company operating the lab, Prestige Biotech, told investigators that the mice inside the warehouse had been genetically engineered to catch and spread the COVID-19 virus, according to The San Joaquin Valley Sun.

The warehouse came under investigation in March after a local code enforcement officer discovered a garden hose attached to a back wall of the building. As officials searched, medical devices that appeared to have been created on-site, such as COVID-19 and pregnancy tests, were also discovered, NBC News reported.

"Certain rooms of the warehouse were found to contain several vessels of liquid and various apparatus," NBC reported court documents related to the incident said. "Fresno County Public Health staff also observed blood, tissue and other bodily fluid samples and serums; and thousands of vials of unlabeled fluids and suspected biological material."

Nearly 800 of the mice found inside the warehouse were euthanized by officials, per NBC. An additional approximately 175 mice were already dead when they were discovered.

"There was over 800 different chemicals on site in different bottles of different acids," KRON4 reported the assistant director of the Fresno County Department of Public Health, Joe Prado, said. "Unfortunately, a lot of these are being categorized under unknown chemicals."«

Source: https://www.insider.com/illegal-lab-found-full-of-bioengineered-mice-and-infectious-diseases-2023-7

@novid

anti_disease,

@Tooden @elana @PacificNic @novid

I guess the conclusion so far is that this underground lab wasn’t meant for bioterrorism, it was just the pharmaceuticals industry working hard to provide us with Covid and pregnancy tests, etc etc, at competitive prices.

It doesn’t exactly reassure me that would be particularly unlikely as .

anti_disease, to california

Police crack down on clandestine virus lab in a Californian warehouse. The lab featured:

🦠 Tissue samples included HIV, Hepatitis and Covid-19,

🦠 A thousand humanized rats, bioengineered to catch and spread Covid-19,

🦠 800 different chemicals, many categorized as ‘unknown chemicals’

> Insider: »An illegal lab in California containing nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice has officials concerned after improperly stored tissue samples were tested and discovered to contain infectious diseases including HIV and Hepatitis. […]
>
> The makeshift lab contained roughly 30 refrigerators and freezers — some of which were non-operational — as well as incubators, medical testing supplies, and hundreds of mice. Several disease samples tested from the lab included infectious agents like herpes, coronavirus, E. Coli, and malaria, SFist reported.
>
> Wang Zhaolin, a representative of the company operating the lab, Prestige Biotech, told investigators that the mice inside the warehouse had been genetically engineered to catch and spread the COVID-19 virus, according to The San Joaquin Valley Sun.
>
> The warehouse came under investigation in March after a local code enforcement officer discovered a garden hose attached to a back wall of the building. As officials searched, medical devices that appeared to have been created on-site, such as COVID-19 and pregnancy tests, were also discovered, NBC News reported.
>
> "Certain rooms of the warehouse were found to contain several vessels of liquid and various apparatus," NBC reported court documents related to the incident said. "Fresno County Public Health staff also observed blood, tissue and other bodily fluid samples and serums; and thousands of vials of unlabeled fluids and suspected biological material."
>
> Nearly 800 of the mice found inside the warehouse were euthanized by officials, per NBC. An additional approximately 175 mice were already dead when they were discovered.
>
> "There was over 800 different chemicals on site in different bottles of different acids," KRON4 reported the assistant director of the Fresno County Department of Public Health, Joe Prado, said. "Unfortunately, a lot of these are being categorized under unknown chemicals."«

Source: https://www.insider.com/illegal-lab-found-full-of-bioengineered-mice-and-infectious-diseases-2023-7

@novid

rchusid, to random
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Despite the conspiracy theories you are hearing about the Proximal Origins article:

The evidence strongly indicates zoonotic spread from the Wuhan market as opposed to lab leak

The authors approached this with an open mind, becoming increasingly of this convinced by late February

The evolution of their thought is clearly seen if the full discussion and article are read

Subsequent evidence has further strengthened the case for zoonotic spillover as opposed to lab leak.

rchusid, to random
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The scientific evidence has quite strongly shown that zoonotic spread from a wet market is the most likely cause of the pandemic, with lab leak far less likely. For those who don't want to wade through all the literature, TWIV has an excellent podcast reviewing this. It was done shortly before the intelligence report was released which further shows how weak the evidence for lab leak has been.


https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1019/

rchusid, to random
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Thread Reader App Twitter thread on how the ODNI reoort debunks multiple lab leak theories.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1673034164973764608.html

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