#ITM#TYFYC#LGY
No Agenda Social: It had to be burned to the ground so that something more beautiful could grow.
If it appears my comments are offensive, Re-read the comment with sarcasm applied!
Sometimes I’m serious…
Sometimes I really, really enjoy being a DICK!
When thinking about Elon and X, please also consider this. If a place for speech gets accepted as the most open and popular, then what's popular there will be claimed as speaking for the general public. Winning in the public square matters.
But of course X is not a public square. It's a place where lefties increasingly feel unwelcome cause of harassment. But its use by big names keeps telling the world that it matters. We must displace it, by limiting harassment but not speech here. #SocialWeb
Which nations, named or considered a homeland for an ethnicity, treat people differently based on their religion or ethnicity? Cause I can go for #Israel (including maybe the Palestinian territories) being Jewish in the same way that Greece is Greek etc. You don't get special rights anywhere in Europe afaik for having the related heritage. It would probably take decades of UN forces and a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to make that work. What side does this put me on? #Gaza
@wjmaggos@amerika Read any history of any country in Africa. Watch Hotel Rwanda. Etc.
Bottom line…you had better be affiliated with the ruling party, tribe, ethnicity, religion or any combination.
@Twig Moron doesn’t know about loans, interest rates, minimum payments, refinancing, etc., much less legal obligations.
He/She signed a CONTRACT if his own free will.
My wife @elenacardone
started a $354,000,000 GoFundMe account to fund the UNJUST judgement against @realDonaldTrump
@DonaldJTrumpJr
@EricTrump
and Trump Organization.
Give something & DEMONSTRATE that the people of America are standing together against unjust rulings like this where a bias judges & corrupt legal system is out of control.
@wjmaggos@Djeep@takash
Man, you really are delusional, aren’t you? Have you SEEN the video? He WAITED until she was almost through the window, hiding in the shadows, giving no warnings, and then took a headshot from less than 10 feet. MURDER, any which way you look at it.
He wasn’t protecting ANY govt. employees. They were already evacuated.
Tell us…Why weren’t the climate activists arrested or shot for literally occupying the House, including Speaker Pelosi’s office?
@wjmaggos
I did not know that reading minds was a super power of yours.
I will gladly concede my point that Byrd gave her no warning, IF you post the video with audio where he did.
If you can not, then you concede that you are making up facts to suit your narrative.
Deal?
@wjmaggos@amerika@blamellors@nam No. Depending on your client/newsreader (really a misnomer) you could filter out the posts you weren’t interested in seeing. But there was no “Mute” or “Block” button.
You simply didn’t engage. When people are trolling, it’s for attention and engagement. When they don’t get it, they go away, or moderate their behavior.
This is where the very old saying “Don’t Feel the Trolls” comes from.
Also, other shorthand slurs like Foad, gfy, esad.
@amerika@wjmaggos@blamellors@nam Agreed. With Usenet it took sime work to filter out the truly horrible people. It wasn’t worth the effort to filter someone just because they said something that I simply didn’t agree with, or slightly offended my sensibilities. Social Media today is very much an echo chamber because it’s too easy to block/mute, and people aren’t exposed to differing views.
@wjmaggos@amerika@blamellors@nam Kinda, sorta, not really.
Usenet and newsgroups are like NAS, only much larger, so the comparison is apt.
You can find people and interact with them, it’s just…different.
So far as creating a new account, it was much easier to filter the douches out, so there wasn’t a point in creating a new account just to be a troll.
Because everyone had to be somewhat computer literate to be on Usenet (or a BBS), users were competent in dealing with others.
@wjmaggos
For this discussion BBS' don't apply. They're usually smaller communities, controlled by owners. Usenet is like the Fedi. Newsgroups are like NAS, or POA.ST For all intents and purposes, Usenet & Newsgroups are wide open. No blocks, no requirements to join a newsgroup. Literally like lurking on any platform, and interacting with whomever you please. Usenet is even more decentralized than the fedi. You can't take down a group, & posts can exist for years. @amerika@blamellors@nam
@wjmaggos
…or even decades. Probably what separates Usenet from social media as it exists today, is that in order to get access to read posts, you can sign up with a provider for free or you can pay for it. Providers who offer free accounts typically don’t see all the newsgroups and retention (how long the provider keeps the posts) can be measured in days or months.
@wjmaggos
The information and shear volume of posts can sometimes feel like a firehose of data, especially when you first start out. @amerika@blamellors@nam
@wjmaggos@amerika@blamellors@nam Providers that offer paid accounts can usually see all the newsgroups and retention is in years or decades. Some providers will simply not pull in the feeds from newsgroups that are too spammy, dead, or they have an issue with. So, in that case, what happens in one group does affect what others can see.
Additionally, where tagging is generally not a thing, you can cross-post to any number of other groups when you post.
@amerika
Yeah, poor choice of words. Mot that it doesn't apply, but I was trying to get across the point that Usenet & BBS aren't intertwineable for the purpose of comparison to the fediverse. @wjmaggos@blamellors@nam
It’s so grating how the lesson of #fediblock and such still hasn’t been learned/intuited by a majority of furry fandom yet. Everyone’s so quick to jump on the soapbox and complain about ineffectiveness of applying broad-sweeping blocklists when they’re negatively impacted by it, and try to speak in a noble manner of morals and principles. Yet, typically in barely a few posts/days later, are still defending much of it as a necessity to ‘solve the Nazi problem’, when it does absolutely nothing of the sort. Blocking “Nazis” (whereas that term is used in such a broad spectrum from: actual non-sockpuppet neo-Nazis, to ‘people I disagree with’, that it makes it meaningless) does not make them disappear, it’s no more than the logic of a child hiding under their bedsheets hoping for the imagined monster to go away.
If you look back into history of the fediverse, even back before ActivityPub became a thing (back in OStatus days): it’s a pattern where a lot of the heavily blocked instances ended up continuing to live on, while the over-moderated instances killed themselves off by crippling their user’s ability to intercommunicate per overprotective moderation. In fact, in the present day it’s where a lot of the ‘most active’ fediverse instances are the most blocked, and yet fediblock puts very little of any dent in it. You know what happens when you list an instance in a fediblock list? You irrevocably start to put them in the “banned” side of the fediverse, the space where people don’t have to walk on eggshells nor try to soften their words to appease the sensitivities of the more overmoderated instances.
On the “banned” side, there’s no point to try to cater to the fediblock crowd anymore, because that’s already been irrevocably severed. If you’re listed once, it’s just blindly recirculated to other lists, and never resolvable. So instead of “keeping the Nazis out”, whereas the practices of fediblock–you’re actually pushing more people to ‘that side’ of the internet, and causing the opposite of whatever ‘social justice’ endeavor you’re on. I’ve actually made far more genuine and authentic friends from fedi than I have from Discord and Telegram by far, majority of friends which are on the ‘banned’ side, versus being around the people that’ll ditch out from you at the moment of getting any ‘cancel culture’ labeling.
I almost feel bad for these people that wrap themselves so deep into such fleeting, fickle online associations (usually also chasing after parasocial relationships too). Always so quick to startle, offend, or whatever. The ever-moving ‘chase’ of jumping from Twitter, to fedi, to Bluesky just to ‘not literally be in a Nazi bar’, like some neverending Scooby-Doo monster chase scene. What is so staggering and harmful in witnessing word choices you disagree with? You can just shrug it off, ignore, and move about your day. It’s no surprise that anxiety disorders are so profoundly ubiquitous in the present, if people can’t de-condition themselves from going panic mode in stumbling across something they weren’t expecting. But yet people believe it’s a responsibility to hide any level of provoking content, as if it’s “protecting” them, instead of realizing it grows their phobias.
A fediverse server is not a private Discord guild, it is not a Telegram group, it’s to be handled as internet infrastructure like an email server, a backbone router, etc–you don’t interfere with legitimate traffic just because you disagree with differing viewpoints or lexicon, otherwise you greatly reduce the effectiveness of the network and just push people back to centralized services. If you want a moderated community then start a centralized forum, a chat server, or any other variety of closed-space communities.
If you routinely have problems being a center of negative attention, then: stop virtue signaling, stop acting as ‘internet tough guy’, stop doing ‘callout’ posts to provoke drama, stop openly virtuing every block you make, stop trying to make anything mundane to be political, and you will start to be virtually invisible to these people. This isn’t even just exclusive to posting online, some of it applies to in-person interaction as well. Generally only the miserable prefer to be around the miserable, and usually it’s the most miserable people that exhibit most of the aforementioned behaviors. Stop trying to act as some different personality online, and instead talk how you genuinely would in-person.
Self-reflect. Sometimes you may have character flaws that you can improve on; don’t fall into the bait of “feel good” content, or the narcissistic “you’re absolutely perfect the way you are, don’t change a thing”, else you stunt yourself from self-improvement.
@wjmaggos
Okay, time out. Serious question…
What are you hoping for?
Do you want this server to be free from anything bad with moderators?
Or, do you want the entire fediverse to be that way?
NoAgenda.social was not banned by other servers for “users harassing each other”.
That didn’t occur until within 2023 on a large scale, so that’s a red herring. It started initially with a single server admin asking others to consider putting us on a block list because we were ‘a bunch of Nazi KKK quadroons’.
@wjmaggos
The only way to insure this is to start your own instance, which will cost you about $5 per month. You are your own administrator and moderator. You can publish your own set if rules for everyone to see so that there’s not a reason for any other server to block yours. What you are asking for is not realistic. Especially when you get a service for free, and others don’t want to do what you’re asking because it will cost them money.
@wjmaggos
I think he’s advocating for free speech and the system that this instance seems to embrace. If you’re advocating for change on NAS, then you’re asking for the impossible.
