Right now, in my state, you can choose to have your electricity generated from green power sources, or from “conventional” sources. Here’s the kicker, the green power costs about 6x the conventional rate, and most of that is paid as a subsidy to keep the conventional power rate low. It ought to be a crime, and what do you know, it was! And they put the guy in jail, but they also kept the policy in place.
Kindly fuck off. You can’t even address the core component of our original discussion. I’m throwing the final gauntlet here. You name a time, place, or system of government that was fair and equitable in the last 8000 years, and I’ll write an apology to you, admit you are far superior, and delete everything except that statement from my account . If you can’t do that, then don’t even bother fucking replying. I’m just going to copy-paste a reply calling you a moron and pointing out that you have failed again to rise to the most basic level of honest discourse.
You are a moron and a coward. You won’t even try to defend your statements. The only way you know to react to conflict is to hurl meritless accusation of fascism. By your own admission, you cannot describe what fascism actually is. You can fuck off anytime.
defend your ideology, and defend your ideology’s proximity to fascism.
Let me open with this. I didn’t claim to be a liberal, that is a label that you applied to me. I don’t think it’s an unfair assertion, but at the same time, I am not constrained to the ideological boundaries of that label.
Liberal, (at least where I’m from) means that you interpret the rules of society with some leeway. Language in laws or rules, no matter how specific, cannot encompass edge-case scenarios, so some human intuition and adjustment of a law or rule is required in order to for it to function with it’s intended purpose. Briefly put, Liberals in my country beleive that laws should fit to society, rather than the opposing conservative construction, that society should be fit to the law.
Since you refuse to accept a definiton for fascism, and on multiple occasions, declaring that it is undefinable, it makes it a useless term to compare to. You might as well be asking me to compare liberal ideology to CPU architecture or the concept of cottage industry. If you won’t accept a definiton for fascism, and are afraid to provide you own, then it is logically impossible for someone to use it as a comparative.
Now, I have addressed your silly roundabout 3rd grade logic. Please, with some decorum, address your point, that there is/was a time in human society post-cave-dwelling, where the social/justice system was fair and equitable. In case you forgot, that is the point that started you on this useless, indefensible and idiotic tirade. Or you can tacitly admit you don’t have a point, and you can kindly fuck off.
Oh, I never said I’d refuse a definition of fascism
No no, you’re faaaaaar tooooo smaaaaart to commit to an actual definition, or even general framework of what fascism is. Despite this, you still expect other people to defend against your internally checked, rapidly shifting goalpost of what qualifies as “fascism”. Put your money where your mouth is, you trollish coward, define, even in loose terms, what fascism is, so that we may actually discuss it. If you can’t do that, then you’re not actually making any points here, you’re just swimming circles in a pool of your own bullshit.
Because going all the way takes us back to caveman society.
My assertion here is that there has not been a perfect, equitable society in human history. This is why I’d rather work to fix the society we have, than throw out the everything and live without society, yah know, because I like the things society brings, like running water, electricity, flushing toilets, refrigeration, videogames… You’d get the idea of your head wasn’t up your ass. The evidence I’ll provide for this claim, is that there has not been a completely just society in human history. If you’d like to refute this claim, you can simply name one. But you can’t, because you are wrong, so you won’t, and instead you’ll dilly-dally and dance around while hurling labels that you don’t understand at people while implicitly arguing that words don’t have a real meaning.
Oh… now we’re no longer talking about “definitions,” are we? We have now shifted to “general frameworks?”
Yes, because you have refused in any way to communicate a meaning of the word. That’s on you, not me. Literally your doing, and it’s the core premise of 90% of your statements, but you can’t even tell us what means.
Ah, so you’ve chosent the tacit admission that your argument is bullshit, you have’t actually thought about what you reacted to, and you’d like to kindly fuck off, but you just lack the self control to behave like an adult in conversations.
Also, classic gish gallop. One, or maybe 2 addressable point at a time please.
I don’t think protest works without risk to the protestors. They have to be willing to take those risks to stand up for a cause, otherwise it’s not a protest, it’s just a group complaint.
If someone said “you can protest over there, at these certain times” you’d fuckin bet that I’d protest anywhere and any time except for what was specified.
Kennedy said, “Those who make peaceful protest impossible, make violent protest inevitable”, the modern version should be “those who don’t listen to peaceful protest, are signaling that they will only respond to violent protest”.
So if protestors are disrupting classes, delaying traffic, and forcing the general public to acknowledge the issue at hand, then good, that’s what a protest should do. If they are causing immediate danger to themselves or others, then they should expect to be removed, hopefully voluntarily.
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Meme is missing another citizen not bailing and saying “just vote for someone else” and then a body floating face down in the water that says “3rd party candidates”.
Oh and approximately 2 more citizens dumping buckets of water back in the boat, screaming about how their rights to drill holes come from god and that the people bailing water are what is really wrong with the whole boat.
I’m good with giving shitty people the death penalty. I’d be down for making more things punishable by death, but… I don’t trust the system to determine guilt or innocence reliably enough.
I always keep a short length of single mode fiber optic cable with me when I’m hiking. If I get lost, I just bury it, and it less than an hour some idiot will show up in a backhoe and accidentally cut it in half.
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