CMV: The people who want to receive data from Threads should just…make a freaking Threads account. The whole argument to connect with them at all is weird. It’s like recording a Disney movie to your DVR box and setting up streaming from your smart TV to your tablet so you can now enjoy the movie you recorded in bed…when you could’ve just downloaded the freaking Disney+ app.
It’s also (somehow) like when you’re already in shorts and a t-shirt but still a little warm and someone else wants to turn the A/C off cause they’re cold. They can put on more clothes and be totally comfy, I cannot (politely) take any more clothes off.
There has been significant discussion in recent weeks regarding Meta/Threads. We would like to express our disappointment with the negative and threatening tone of some of these discussions. We kindly ask everyone to engage in civil discourse and remember that not everyone will share the same opinions, which is perfectly...
Bullshit, this server could resist corporate influence and YOU could find another instance. You’re acting like the people that don’t like your point of view should leave. That’s not any worse whatsoever than “if you disagree with me, you’re just naive.” They are 100% both “My way or the highway” sentiments.
Personally, the burden is on you all to prove why you shouldn’t just go make a threads account if you care about threads?! Those of us that want nothing to do with Meta really shouldn’t have to opt out of a Lemmy instance to keep corporate influence away from us when so many of us are Reddit refugees who came here specifically to get away from corporate bs. Especially not when the fediverse is an answer to and result of big tech’s outsized social media influence in the first place.
It’s like you all joined the Rebels and want to invite the Empire over for tea…wtf?
Starting to genuinely wonder if these folks aren’t paid corporate shills. How did these people even find their way to an anti-corporate environment just to argue that Meta and all the rest are just fine people and that their absolutely terrible reputation doesn’t even exist? It’s straight-up gaslighting, their list of offenses and abuses is pretty long. Meta is certainly not above paying people to astroturf and defend its reputation. To anyone that knows a damn thing though, that ship sailed a long time ago.
We kindly ask everyone to engage in civil discourse and remember that not everyone will share the same opinions, which is perfectly acceptable.
It’s really actually not acceptable to ignore what a bad actor Facebook/Meta has been. Catch up on the news if you need to. Cambridge Analytica scandal, unwitting social experiments, and the insane amount of intrusive permissions required just to use threads etc. They’ve been anti-consumer in an almost dystopian way and failing to call that out is an immoral stance. There’s really no polite way to say, “that’s a hell no, fix your attitude, or I’m out.” That people have characterized folks telling you this is a deal-breaker as “blackmail” is the absurd stance here. We’re asking you to stay true to the anti-corporate “power to the people” spirit that created Lemmy in the first place and call out Meta for being an obviously bad actor in this space, as a bunch of Reddit refugees… You actually arguing against this and acting like “both sides are fine” about it is being completely tone-deaf and is 100% antithetical to the purpose of the fediverse.
“All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.” You’ve already committed to doing nothing during an important time with a “wait and see” attitude. Meta is still a face-eating leopard, a frog-stinging scorpion, or whatever analogy does it for ya. It’s not a tough choice and there IS a right and wrong answer.
It’s a conspiracy just in the sense that they are seemingly counting these towards their growth numbers. If they’re saying they have 20 million accounts, but they created 3/4 of them as placeholders, then no…they have 5 million accounts.
I keep seeing everyone say their privacy is why they aren’t going to use threads. I don’t think that’s entirely true. I think most of us here have a hatred so deep for meta that even if they made the greatest app on earth, we’d still not use it. So, if threads actually respected your privacy would you use it?
I would never trust that it would respect my privacy in the first place. Why would anyone think they’re going to turn over a new leaf just because they released a new service?!
Agreed about influencers. Meta wouldn’t be doing this at all if they didn’t have a plan (or multiple plans) to monetize it. The whole reason I left Reddit and plan to leave Twitter was that I very much dislike having any part of my online enjoyment at the mercy of the whims of gigantic corporate assholes that think they are far more important than they are. Meta has been an awful and abusive actor in the tech world, why would any freedom-loving person want anything to do with them in a freedom-loving space?! Why would anyone just wait and see what they do this time to decide they’re an awful company with only their profits in mind and no qualms about making those profits at a cost to its users?!
Facebook doesn’t give a shit about its users and treats them and their data as a crop to harvest. On Meta platforms, you’re the product. On the fediverse, you’re just another user, free to do what you want. Disgust is indeed an emotion, and I’m 100% fine with being disgusted with Meta.
Facebook is known for analyzing your contact list and trying to get as much data as they can on those people as well. You don’t have to make life easier for face-eating leopards.
This thread is full of children who think that because they don’t like something then neither should anyone else.
This is exactly you. You don’t like the idea of blocking Facebook and are being combative and douchey to anyone who disagrees. Your dislikes are in the toilet and you are as free to leave .world as anyone else.
It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it’s users will not be allowed to proceed....
It’s not just one behavior, it’s a continuous pattern of behavior. If you want to give them a clean slate in every new instance, that’s your choice. At some point it’s the scorpion and the frog. Whether you consider it an ethical argument or not, it’s basic common sense that Meta’s pattern of behavior will continue absent any evidence to the contrary.
And ad hominem is an argument against a person, not a company. My argument is citing their past behavior which would not be an ad hominem argument even if I’d cited Zuckerberg specifically. “Because Zuck is greedy.” would be ad hominem.
We have 2-3 months to compile a Threads block list (www.timothychambers.net)
It is expected to be 2-3 months before Threads is ready to federate (see link). There will, inevitably, be five different reactions from instances:...
Lemmy.world Admin Response to Meta/Threads
There has been significant discussion in recent weeks regarding Meta/Threads. We would like to express our disappointment with the negative and threatening tone of some of these discussions. We kindly ask everyone to engage in civil discourse and remember that not everyone will share the same opinions, which is perfectly...
This might help explain the spectacular launch of Threads (lemmy.world)
Automatically creating a shadow account for everyone on Instagram?...
Would you use threads if it respected your privacy?
I keep seeing everyone say their privacy is why they aren’t going to use threads. I don’t think that’s entirely true. I think most of us here have a hatred so deep for meta that even if they made the greatest app on earth, we’d still not use it. So, if threads actually respected your privacy would you use it?
Reddit Gives Final Warning to Subreddits Using NSFW Protest Tactic (www.pcmag.com)
Lyme Disease Rule (i.imgur.com)
Can we stop making posts to complain about new users complaining about reddit?
What is more mildly infuriating than reading a post complaining about someone else complaining? Adding another level!...
Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook (lemmy.ml)
Lemmy.ml has now blocked Threads.net
Truth. (lemmy.world)
Lemmy.ml has now blocked threads.net / Meta (lemmy.ml)
It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it’s users will not be allowed to proceed....
joining the fediverse to bitch about reddit is the same as going on a date, and spending the whole night talking about your ex
I’m tired about reading about reddit here....
To the admins- will lemmy.world block Facebook's Threads or are you open to federating with them in the future?
ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…...
Meta will kill small instances! Please read.
I just read this point in a comment and wanted to bring it to the spotlight....
Time has no meaning (i.postimg.cc)