Mereo

@Mereo@lemmy.world

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Reddit’s Chief Says He Wants It to ‘Grow Up.’ Will Its Community Let It? [Gift article] | Comments are open at NYT. It needs some from this community. (www.nytimes.com)

As the social media site matures, its users and moderators have made their displeasure about corporate changes known, putting the company into a bind.

Mereo,

Reddit's situation is now mentionned on the NYTIMES. That means it made it. May the fall continues.

Mereo,

I have a good experience with Memmy (!memmy). The developers release an update every day.

Mereo,

I have to say, well written article (too bad they only mentioned Beehaw and not Lemmin). Reddit cannot exist without user content and more importantly the moderators who do a hard job for free.

Without moderators, subreddits simply become a free for all, the far west.

Why are there so many stop signs on American streets?

I'm from the UK where in general there's only a stop sign if it's needed, such as a junction where you can see absolutely nothing on one side. Otherwise usually there's a give way line instead, to let people slow the car right down to look, but not need to stop if it's unnecessary....

Mereo,

The problem with North America is that it is closed to trying new things because it believes that its way of doing things is better than the rest of the world.

For example, roundabouts could help with traffic flow and reduce accidents, as they have been proven to do in the rest of the world. But unfortunately, North American drivers are absolutely terrified of them, so cities will not implement them.

Mereo,

Nothing is immoral when you're capitalist platform wanting to make money.

Fediverse is the only platform that will offer freedom.

Mereo,

Unfortunately, Reddit is a business and not a community effort like Fediverse. Shareholders took them by the scruff the neck. Moderators were working for free and are unfortunately realizing that it never had their interests at heart.

📢Entire mod team on r/mildlyinteresting (and more subs) removed and locked out of their accounts after changing their rules upon community's request. (They're also switching subs BACK to SFW)

EDIT: GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!: something as simple as "Hey, I love this community but I no longer use reddit, will you guys be making a community on Kbin or other alternatives? Let me know please, thanks." will work!! We need more voices encouraging migration!...

Mereo,

Unfortunately, the majority will not care. Reddit's app ranks first in iOS' app store after Twitter. This is what Reddit wants, people to stop using third-party apps so that they can easily target ads to users.

Mereo,

Yup. They want people to just be empty shells and consume contents. As long as people go to reddit on their Reddit's app and view targeted ads, it's a win for them.

Mereo,

For sure. I wil still visit a few subreddits, namely my city one, as it is one of the place that I can know the little scoop of what's happening.

But as for having a serious discussions in various topics, Fediverse all the way.

Mereo, (edited )

It comes with the territory. When you're progressively getting bigger, you're bound to get attacked.

Edit: typo.

Mereo,

Long story short, Beehaw is a heavily moderated instance and said that Lemmy didn't have strong moderation tools yet. So for the time being, they have defederated.

Here's their rational: https://lemm.ee/post/58240

Mereo,

What you're mentioning is key. Lemmy is exploding right now. Imagine when all third-party apps cease working... It's gonna be crazy.

Mereo,

What are the tools you used to do it? I'm considering doing the same.

Mereo,

On the contrary, I think it's a good protest. It shows that for a subreddit to thrive, the support of the moderators is key. They need to have the right tools for the job and be supported by Reddit. Otherwise the content will be shitty and not worth it for the shareholders.

Mereo,

Didn't know that, even better!

Looking at Reddit’s career page, I don’t think Reddit will be relenting any time soon: Machine Learning Posts (Ads: Meaning they want to eliminate all third-party apps)

Looking at a company's career page can really reveal its long-term strategy. In this case, Reddit wants to leverage the extraction of wealth generated by its users. This career page caught my eye:...

Looking at Reddit's career page, I don't think Reddit is going to back down: Machine Learning Posts (ads: meaning they want to eliminate all third-party apps).

Looking at a company's career page can really reveal its long-term strategy. In this case, Reddit wants to leverage the extraction of wealth generated by its users. This career page caught my eye:...

Mereo,

Yeesh. I really think that these "pets" shouldn't be allowed on buses and trains.

Mereo,

Exactly. Capitalist platforms will all suffer from enshitification. They will eventually have to make money, and users are products. Their shareholders will eventually force the platforms to extract money from their users.

Mereo,

When we are talking about enshittification, we're talking about these stages:

  • Initial Stage: When a platform starts, it needs users, so it makes itself valuable to users. It provides services that are beneficial to the users, attracting them to the platform.
  • Second Stage: Once the platform has a substantial user base, it starts to abuse its users to make things better for its business customers. It starts prioritizing its business needs over the needs of the users.
  • Final Stage: Finally, the platform starts to abuse its business customers to claw back all the value for itself. It starts taking a larger share of the value that passes between the users and the business customers.

That is, Reddit made it attractive for users to come and write content, and moderators worked for free, and Reddit loved that because they didn't have to pay them. But lo and behold, they have to answer to their shareholders, so they came up with these restrictions to squeeze more money out of users and moderators.

Mereo,

And now, it's 190,606 users. Growth rate: ~5000 users every couple of hours.

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