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All requests go through the backend, client never talks to Reddit
Prevents Reddit from tracking your IP or JavaScript fingerprint
Lightweight (teddit frontpage: ~30 HTTP requests with ~270 KB of data downloaded vs. Reddit frontpage: ~190 HTTP requests with ~24 MB)
Plus I self hosted teddit on the same server where I pirate and when I exported my teddit preferences I found my sonarr and radarr auth tokens in the file
Hmm. We could maybe use a bot on Fediverse that posts a comment with teddit and libreddit links in response to comments with Reddit links so as to facilitate use.
My instance only currently has 8 registered users so I know I can take on some more people to help spread the load. People don’t need to sign up for mine specifically though, we just don’t wanna overload kbin.social
On average, it looks to be less than 2gb of ram at the moment. CPU and RAM usage obviously will go up as I have more users, but it’s not bad at all at the moment. I’ve been pleasantly surprised tbh. I am also completely prepared to scale the server up if I get more users on my instance.
Edit: just a follow up, looks like I can scale my instance to a maximum two ways,
“cpu optimized” up to 48 vCPU and 96gb of ram
“Memory optimized” up to 32 vCPU and 256gb of ram
I’m a long way off of the max though now, my server is only 2 vCPU and 4gb memory for now
Looking at the recent Docker Compose commits, kbin should scale horizontally until it hits limits of postgres.
Its a really good candidate for kubernetes, if you deploy on AWS/Azure and use AKS/EKS with Azure Database/RDS you will be able to flexibly scale far beyond those limits.
I have been meaning to learn Helm for ages. This seems a good excuse.
I'm running a lemmy instance and using about 700mb, up from 500mb before I had any users (though I have maybe a dozen active users lmao)
But I'm not using much CPU at all though. 5% average on a 2core VPS VM. 4 gigs as well. I can scale up a bit and still afford it personally. After that Ill have to ask for donations, and if not enough stop registration.
The scaling is from my cloud provider, hopefully I won’t have to scale up to the max (looks like it’d be like $1300/mo)
700mb of ram isn’t bad at all. Yeah I’m using like 30% cpu on a 2 core right now. Kbin definitely uses more resources than lemmy but I think it has a lot more going on in the tech stack
Yeah if my instance got busy enough that would be something to definitely consider. I’m using DigitalOcean over something like AWS as well. I wouldn’t want to run it out of my home off of my own network though which is why VPS providers are nice (plus I have all my DNS rules set up through it)
They are two different types of software that can access the fediverse. Check out lemmy.ml and kbin.social for instance to see the differences. They can both talk to one another and see posts from each type of software. (Kbin can also see posts from mastodon which is kind of like Twitter) I’d say check both out and see what interface you like better. Since they both can share posts with one another you really aren’t missing much by choosing one over the other.
thanks for the list of the kbin instances! Hopefully we can migrate our accounts someday. Joining kbin.social at first has been helpful to me to not have to go through that growing pain of not being able to see many communities/magazines
Yeah no problem! I think that’s the link we should be passing around to people instead of flooding kbin.social (if we can). I’ve tried to populate my instance with all the top popular communities from other instances (including Lemmy) because I know that lack of content is a turn off for instances other than the “main” ones.
I think there needs to be an easier way to see communities/magazines across aggregators because I see the lemmy browse sites for communities won't show any kbin magazines, which I think will only hurt the point of decentralizing but being able to access all the content in the fediverse.
I'm not sure if kbin actually suffers the same way, because I'm on kbin.social which I'm guessing just already has all the current lemmy communities added. But if there's a new lemmy community, and no one added it to kbin.social (how would they find out?) then no one will find out if this lemmy community blows up and becomes really popular right?
oh, maybe it's cuz I'm on a less populated server for lemmy. I'm on lemmy.studio and it's been good, but it's actually really hard to know about any non-lemmy communities. I believe you can only search up "Redditmigration" on lemmy.world since someone already did the initial work to subscribe to it. On lemmy.studio, most of even the lemmy communities aren't on there yet, but at least the lemmy browser will let you see what's out there, so you can know to do the work to be the first to subscribe to it on that less populated server. However, there would be no way to know about the kbin communities if all I'm looking at is that lemmy browser
I'm guessing kbin would have the same issue( but im on a popular server there, kbin.social, so I can't confirm. Everything here, like you has been searchable for me probably cuz it's big so people have already subscribed)
I'm somewhat of a greybeard, I joined Kbin in the old times when there was only kbin.social. A whole week ago. Looking forward to account migration too, just for load-balancing.
okay the only thing is, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep making instance names that don't start with kbin.___ because then if kbin/lemmy really do take off, it would be so hard to google search for them. You can't do the site:kbin.* search if those instances with different names make magazines/communities and you can't find them with that google filter
I don’t necessarily disagree, I don’t see it happening though unfortunately. The whole idea with federation is for people to make their own instances or to fork the software from the original so they can do their thing. The whole idea being “freedom to do what you want.” Telling people what to name their websites/instances likely won’t fly with the instances owners
that's fair, since the instance owners are hosting for us. The only thing is, I feel like the users might not know about this. I didn't really think about it until a little later that oh yeah, there is no [search for something "fediverse"] google search, and we're encouraged to join new instances and for the most part think of them as just servers to build the fediverse. I know I shouldn't try to box the fediverse ideas like reddit, but I am finding it frustrating that the decentralization is having these cons.
I think we just need more tools to help with that. Like website to show all communities across all kbin and Lemmy instances or a place that we can advertise instances for new users. The way things currently are certainly makes it difficult for discoverability (even for experienced fediverse users it can be difficult to discover new stuff, you don’t know what you don’t know)
Instance based communities sound really interesting until it comes to the matter of an instance needing to be shut down. I hope the portability factor of Lemmy gets better, because that's an easy way to lose tons of valuable informarion.
The information won't necessarily be lost, because most/all? the instances that were previously federated with the shut-down instance should have cached copies of its activity. Not sure on what scale, or how far back, content caching will be, but I imagine admins have (or should have) the ability to configure that sort of thing
Now, from the perspective of a user looking to migrate to a new platform, not being able to "take it with you" is a valid concern. Mastodon seems to have account export nailed down, but lemmy/kbin are still pretty new and might need time to implement something like this
Some of the /r/ExperiencedDevs mods are running the programming.dev instance and most Star Trek-related subreddits moved to startrek.website, so it’s already happening.
For the first time in forever I find myself actively participating and engaging. Over on Reddit I really just ended up using my account to moderate and nothing more. I adore those communities, and the teams I moderated with, but I actually find myself enjoying the forum atmosphere again.
It will be an interesting time for sure. I hope it can work out in a way that skilled moderators can be compensated for their efforts. It seems like donation-supported instances for niche communities isn't too unrealistic right now, though that doesn't solve the volunteer labor problem. Cleverer things will probably become possible as the technology improves.
Well it's certainly a question of scale. I've seen some successful indie projects where the hosting costs are met by donations, but that's usually when the admin/dev(s) are donating their labor. I struggle to imagine a community that could crowdfund enough for a few reasonable salaries on top of hosting costs.
Though my imagination isn't particularly strong, so I would be delighted if such a thing came to be!
The last I want after all this is corporations to come and try to take over or spread ads and marketing everywhere. Sure, it will probably happen anyway, but I‘m gonna go to some instance that defederates from them.
I know it's not strictly relevant but god damn it what is it with people refusing to use the shift key?
The admin over at Beehaw does this too. It legitimately makes it hard to take them seriously.
Yeah, I know, who cares, right?
It's not about caring how people get lazy with their writing, I do it plenty. It's about, if you're going to make a public statement, maybe capitalize your sentences so they look professional? There are countless, simple ways to do it automatically on desktop.
Not hating on whoever does this, bu it also bugs the crap out of me. I've seen a few stories written online, and when I open the first chapter and see no capitalization, I just close out of it immediately. It just hurts my brain.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every sentence has the first letter capitalized. The bullet points are sentence fragments, so they don't need to be capitalized. Capitalization might look more professional to you, but it's not grammatically correct.
You could argue some of them are commands with an implied subject of You, but not all of them. For consistency, you would want the bullet points to all have the same capitalization.
Exactly. Capitalist platforms will all suffer from enshitification. They will eventually have to make money, and users are products. Their shareholders will eventually force the platforms to extract money from their users.
What do you mean, the users have already doing unpaid work for the platforms from the start. The shareholders simply take that for granted and think they can fuck them over and take twice as much value from them.
When we are talking about enshittification, we're talking about these stages:
Initial Stage: When a platform starts, it needs users, so it makes itself valuable to users. It provides services that are beneficial to the users, attracting them to the platform.
Second Stage: Once the platform has a substantial user base, it starts to abuse its users to make things better for its business customers. It starts prioritizing its business needs over the needs of the users.
Final Stage: Finally, the platform starts to abuse its business customers to claw back all the value for itself. It starts taking a larger share of the value that passes between the users and the business customers.
That is, Reddit made it attractive for users to come and write content, and moderators worked for free, and Reddit loved that because they didn't have to pay them. But lo and behold, they have to answer to their shareholders, so they came up with these restrictions to squeeze more money out of users and moderators.
And right now, because of Reddit entering the final (Digg v4) stage, the fediverse (Mastodon, Lemmy, & KBin) will shortly be entering the second stage. Keep the ad blockers and all shields up, be ready for brand deals, and "sponsored" federation.
Too bad. Reddit's death has made the enshittification of the fediverse inevitable, just as Digg's death made Reddit's situation inevitable. But history has a habit of accelerating. As we feed more advanced data into the system, it advances faster. We're seeing that now, up close, with AI. But I think it's been the case for all of human history - maybe all of history, period. So while it took, what, 10 years, maybe, for Reddit to transition from the second stage to the final, I wouldn't expect it to take more than 2 years for the fediverse as a whole. I have ideas about how it will happen, but I refuse to make those ideas freely accessible.
Not sure you are right here, I think that decentralized network which, importantly, allows instances to choose interconnections, will always adapt if no limit is put on the number of instances, and of course once the genie is out of the bottle .... Both Digg and Reddit were/are able to be monetized , which is very difficult to do with the decentralized model as there is nothing unique to sell, I think this will be something even large organizations will find it impossible to work with to work with IMO. Limiting access is the only real way to monetize where that is advertisers or users or both. How can you limit access if the model is user created content and you do not control access?
You make it so that any activitypub feed from or to your instance injects ads - actively work to put an MitM in the system so that any time your instance ingests a federated post, you drop in an ad into the thread. Then, E^3 - embrace it by getting your people to develop whichever software, extend it with advertising-friendly features, and extinguish by making it inoperable without phoning home to your ad server.
of course but as soon as you do someone will mitigate, cut the head off the hydra and two new ones grow , andof course get too aggressive and people will de-federate you
I'm sure that it will happen. If AI doesn't do it, good old natural greed and cunning will have the same effect. That doesn't mean I need to lay out workable ideas.
I spent some time going through any subreddit I liked and joining their Discord or Lemmy.
I found quite a few that didn't mention the blackouts or API changes and I didn't want to cause a ruckus by posting...so I'd like to know too.
Posting this from my Lemmy acct but tbh kbin looks nicer. I have a feeling everyone's waiting till the end of the month to really see what happens with the 3rd party apps and then they'll lock themselves in to either: Discord, Lemmy, Kbin, or stay on Reddit.
The more tech savvy and/or privacy minded subreddits moved to Lemmy communities, at least for the stuff I look at.
Post anyways! The r/skyrimmods sub didnt mention anything about it for a while and I made a post that gained lots of traction and got about 250 upvotes and now it has 800 subs over here with multiple posts a day!
Or is it basically a Lemmy-and-Mastodon singular hybrid instance?
Ummm... sure? At least kbin.social is a singular hybrid instance that has better-than-expected Lemmy-and-Mastodon compatibility. Not perfect yet, but pretty good.
Kbin is so new compared to Lemmy that there were only like 2 instances a few weeks ago and the second one wasn't in English lol. There are more now but kbin.social is still the biggest and the sentiment stuck around.
In a sense, kbin is different than lemmy, but they can access the same content on the "fediverse". It might be good to think about lemmy and kbin as different clients to access a decentralized web of content through a standard protocol. I can view stuff that originates on a lemmy instance from kbin, and I can view stuff that originates on a kbin instance from lemmy -- all because it's the same protocol.
It's not worth staying on at this point anyway. The people that remain are largely assholes. You can basically see the reason that protests don't work as a macrocosm, because most users now are just bitching that "wahh the blackout only hurts users". No different to people complaining about climate activists who block highways, or trans right activists who get blamed for "being too loud and annoying". Protests don't work when solidarity simply doesn't exist because most people are just selfish, short sighted idiots, and that's basically the userbase that remains over on Reddit at this point. I can't think of a good reason to stay and interact with those kinds of people.
There are also lots of apologetic mod posts that are like "we reopened because we don't want to lose all our hard work and be replaced by someone worse, that is not what's best for our community so we're reopening", the ignorance and arrogance of such statements is mind blowing lmao, but trust Reddit mods to not see the wood for the trees.
Tbh I just got here. I sat what the CEO of Reddit had been saying. I prefer to stay with a platform that's small then go back there. Well I guess I gotta learn how to use Lemmy
One of the problems is that if those mods get de-moded from one sub they will probably be de-moded from all subs they are currently mods for and I honestly think some of the power mods would rather kill themselves than no longer be a mod.
Too stupid to know what's gone on or care. Leave them to go down with the ship. (Not EVERYONE who hasn't figured out Lemmy yet, before anyone gets bummed at me, but the people defending Reddit or complaining.)
They are all going to leave eventually. If this utter disdain for the users and mods is before the ipo, then everything after will be much worse. It is inevitable now that the quality of content will decrease, and that’s the thing that will doom them. Even if they fire Huffman and walk this back, the damage is done. They can’t draw in new users on a more than decade old product, so their only choice is to change the product to appeal to new users. Today that means going left or right. The users and mods that stay are writing graffiti on the walls in a flooding city.
I’ve been wondering which social media platform was going to fold like a house of cards, completely unable to make money or attract investors. Reddit was at the bottom of that list, but here we are.
"Protests don't work" is a weird take on this. No political action is an unmitigated success, movements take time to build momentum. I dunno, try to cool it with the misanthropy. This has gotten a ton of media coverage, built the legitimacy of the fediverse, and forced Reddit to act to break a strike. Not to mention that every step of enshittification makes arguments against corporate controlled social media more compelling in the long term.
Text of the post, for those who prefer not to give the traffic:
Greetings all,
We've started the protest this Monday, in solidarity with numerous people who need access to the API, including bot developers, people with accessibility needs (r/blind) and 3rd party app users (Apollo, Sync, and many more). r/humor in particular has made a great post regarding protesting in support of the blind people.
Despite numerous past policies and statements, in support of the mods' right to protest, we have witnessed many attempts this weeks to force subreddits to open (examples: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).
In light of this, we recommend to all those supporting this cause that you take the following steps:
review other softer forms of protest (some of them mentioned here);
take appropriate measures to consult with your community;
decide on a course of action, that complies with the ever more draconian admin policies, but still helps send the message that reddit needs to do better on the list of our community demands.
Here is a short list of actions that many subs are already engaging in:
private days (example - Touch Grass Tuesdays, or on the weekends);
restricting the topic of the forum (example: restricting to just pictures or gifs of one personality );
narrowing the topic of your forum (see the example of r/Wellthatsucks;
widening the topic of your forum (see the example of r/interestingasfuck);
marking the subreddit temporarily NSFW or switching to allowing NSFW content. Changing this setting should not be taken lightly (it would be against the TOS); however, if content in your sub happens to also include "nudity, pornography, or profanity", please take appropriate steps to warn users, including temporarily marking your community as NSFW. This has the undesirable effect of reducing your community's reach and visibility but, per the Moderator Code of Conduct, it is our duty as moderators to ensure the safety of those viewing our content and provide appropriate warning to anyone who may incidentally view any mature content (see the example of r/Toyota)
linkedin campaign - commenting on the linkedin posts of reddit with info about this protest (demands, and how reddit admins punished protesting mods);
inform reddit advertisers of the current issues;
modifying image posts requirements (all image posts must include an album, and the first picture must be protest-related);
content as usual in an open sub, but the title includes protest language;
remove all sub rules and let the community curate content through up-/downvotes;
open sub and pin anti-staff message (list of unfulfilled promises, terrible decisions), and add to sidebar;
automod sticky on every thread promoting Reddit alternatives;
have automod make scheduled posts about the protest;
increase the age and karma posting requirements through automod;
turn off discovery settings, and popping up on r/all.
As usual:
do not allow or promote harassment of people or communities;
do not allow illegal content, or content that breaks TOS.
We have to work within the limits imposed by reddit, but there is still plenty of ways to get the message to reddit and mass media about the important issues of the protest, that will affect the quality of content on reddit, how people with disabilities can access the site and how mods can fulfill their duties.
Please post below forms of protest in which you engage, or other suggestions.
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