This whole conversation is the equivalent to stranger danger of the 80s, it is shocking how far the publics social awareness is. Just like stranger danger it enphasizes fear over rational truth, and encourages isolation over community. The truth of the matter is that some random man isn’t a bigger threat to you than a random bear, when looking at statistics and physical threat to women it’s domestic violence.
This bear shit is some whack ass 4th wave feminism that completely lacks any kind of internal self criticism. The public conversation surrounding it provides no purpose than to feed into incel radicalization of young men feeling the strains of alienation under capitalism.
Those assaults aren’t from strangers is the piece of information omitted, it’s men in their family or inner circle abusing power or taking advantage of trust. The perception that all men are a threat is seriously damaging our youth and in fact creating a larger issue as it radicalizes them into ideologies that don’t value others as a reactionary turn to the way they feel treated.
This shit is bad and you should feel bad for propagating it.
That’s not what the linked study says: In June 2021, the Opinions and Lifestyle Survey (OPN) showed that 28% of women and 16% of men had experienced at least one form of harassment in the previous 12 months. Of adults aged 16 to 34 years, 58% of women had experienced harassment, compared with 24% of men (Figure 4).
And don’t get me wrong, I am not here to justify harassment of anyone, but you’re grossly misrepresenting the study right now. Perceptions are absolutely influenced by experience of harassment but the actual threat to a woman is not random men on the street, it’s a man that has power over her or within her circle of trust. That could be a boss, a husband or relative.
However that reality is not what is shaping public perception, I would ask you why do you think that is? It’s a very important part of this bear conversation that is completely lost on everyone.
I don’t want to get in the weeds here, at least once in the last 12 months is not regularly, that’s my point on your misrepentation. Does it happen too much, absolutely, does the study present enough data to say it’s happening regularly, no.
Again when talking about actual threats to women it is not strangers but men already in their circle, yet that is not what the bear discussion revolves around.
Please answer: Why do you think the actual threat doesn’t shape public consciousness the same way perceived threats do?
You’re making alot of assumptions about the people disagreeing. My co-parent has been talking about this bear tiktok since it first showed up, how disappointed she has been with friends saying they would pick a bear, how harmful the discussion revolving around it is to young men, how 4th wave feminism leans more to reactionary politics instead of building towards material change. She is a socialist political organizer and every single woman in her party is pretty demoralized by this whole thing as it says alot about the publics political consciousness. If half the population more than half the population judging by the men in this thread agreeing to pick the bear, see strangers as a dangerous other, where does that leave us to join together to make meaningful change in society?
Having lemmy be my only form of social media this is my first time encountering the bear discussion and I completely understand her frustration now.
Nightclubs are a space that preditors are active in and that skews the perception. It’s absolutely best practice to hold your drink, that doesn’t mean the chances of a random man in the forest who is going to be a threat is high. How many people just don’t enjoy nightclubs?
Hamas isn’t even in the West Bank yet Shireen Abu Akleh was murdered there in 2022, while clearly marked as a journalist. There are so many incidents I could pull up as examples of indiscriminate killings but your ignorance is not worth my time.
It’s not because he personally wants to, go check what he’s on the record as saying his entire career. This isn’t something to applaud, this is him trying to avoid political blowback. You think we should stop applying pressure because of a single descision?
Hard to celebrate anything with so much money stolen from the American people and so many Palestinians dead.
This is shameful and the fact that Trump is worse is no excuse, raise your expectations. There are ongoing protests being violently repressed and all Biden has to say about it is “law and order”, wake up.
The government is changing their tune, as intended … You argue until the other side is convinced, which we are in the middle of doing and succeeding at.
Oh there is no other option, but that wasn’t my point. Republicans extremism allows the Democrats to continue to fail the American people in a ratchet effect. It’s a slow slide into Fascism instead of a fast one. Isreal has been killing the Palestinian people and forcing them to seek asylum since the country’s inception. Weapons to Isreal are weapons to kill the native population, it’s what colonizers do.
Allowing lip service to pacify the publics awareness only plays into their favor. That is my point. Don’t make excuses for them.
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