Ron DeSantis bans 'global elite' lab-grown meat

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has banned lab-grown meat, saying he will “save our beef” from the “global elite” and its “authoritarian plans”.

“Florida is fighting back against the global elite’s plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs,” Mr DeSantis said in a statement.

The first-in-the-nation law prohibits anyone from selling or distributing lab-grown meat in Florida.

Similar efforts are under way in Alabama, Arizona and Tennessee.

Lab-grown or “cultivated” meat was first cleared for consumption in the US in 2022.

The process of making cultivated meat involves extracting cells from an animal, which are then fed with nutrients such as proteins, sugars and fats. The end product is genetically indistinguishable from traditionally produced meat.

Studies have suggested that eating cultivated meat can cut carbon emissions and water usage, and free up land for nature, compared to eating traditionally produced meat.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, the ‘global elite,’ who they also call ‘globalists.’ And who are they talking about?

The term is now frequently used as a pejorative by far-right movements and conspiracy theorists, as in the New World Order conspiracy theory;[3] it is associated with antisemitism, as antisemites frequently appropriate the term globalist to refer to Jews.[3][4][5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

uberdroog,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

He is just a turd.

meleecrits,
@meleecrits@lemmy.world avatar

Remember, that’s just a wild conspiracy. Criticizing the Israeli government’s genocide is antisemitic though…

ech,

The way you’ve phrased this sounds like you think there really is a Jewish cabal that runs the world and is ruining it.

meleecrits,
@meleecrits@lemmy.world avatar

I apologize if you thought I was implying that. I am in no way agreeing that there is a “Deep State” or anything to that effect. I was trying to draw criticism to DeSantis’ use of the word Globalists, which does have antisemitic overtones, while the House just passed a bill that could lead to criticism of Israel in any way would count as antisemitism.

Sarcasm on the internet is hard to convey.

ech,

Gotcha. I understand now.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for clarifying, I didn’t understand the comment either. (I did not downvote it, however.)

msage,

Sarcasm on the internet is hard to convey.

No, it’s not.

/s

Honytawk,

It’s nice to know he recognises the elite nature of globalism though.

billiam0202,

Also the Harvard/Yale grad complaining about “elites”. Tell me again who gets into those schools? The run-of-the-mill pablum?

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

The ‘global elite’ wouldn’t touch lab grown meat. This stuff is meant to sustain the poor when cow meat production becomes cost prohibitive (it already is without government subsidies).

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s ridiculous. Every scientist I have ever seen involved in this field says it is about getting people to give up or at least eat less meat for the good of the planet.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Our points don’t disagree. Point #1 The goal is food production in order to sustain a growing population. Current production is ecologically and economically unsustainable. Point #2 The “global elite” wouldn’t be caught dead eating lab grown meat unless they are doing a promo for the “lab grown meat” company.

Guntrigger,

Personally, I imagine the global elite to be Cypher, enjoying a succulent steak while selling out the rest of humanity to robots.

RememberTheApollo_,

I think the term has no real meaning to them anymore. It’s just another term thrown at anything they don’t like, like “woke” or whatever. I’m sure some definitely use it deliberately, but I think most lack the directed prejudice and just use it lazily as a catch-all for “liberal”.

monsterlynn,
monsterlynn avatar

Definitely some of them use it that way. It's clever in a thuggish way because the implication is that the base is just regular, normal folks.

ThirdWorldOrder,

It’ll be a new culture war thing next week anyway

BakerBagel,

Whatever they are saying is just a standin for a slur. Look at the tweet about “Baltimore’s DEI mayor” and too immediately see that they are just using CRT, woke, gender ideology, DEI, elite, or whatever new term comes into Vogue next month as a stand in for whatever applicable slur.

FirstCircle,
@FirstCircle@lemmy.ml avatar

whatever new term comes into Vogue

These people are reading Vogue? That’s an interesting twist. I wouldn’t have thought the average Fascist would be all that into fashion. Fashists?

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

They don’t just turn terms into slurs to rally the morons, they do it to attack the ideological base of their opponents.

“Globalist” became a dogwhistle for Jewish people because fascists pretended to think socialism, which inherently rejects nationalism or loses all meaning, was a Jewish conspiracy. By turning it into a meaningless slur they’re not just turning their base against the idea, they’re making their opponents react to its use as slur.

As it happens, neoliberalism ended up having a different kind of globalist goal, so they got a free 2 for 1 slur against their ideological enemies even though the end goals are wildly different. And, obviously, fascists don’t see the need to explain how the “Jewish conspiracy” is behind both socialism and neoliberalism.

It also just turns people against the concept without understanding what it actually is.

Thus me just last week having to argue with a “socialist” social democrat about how “globalism” isn’t a dogwhistle on an ideological level.

Carrolade,

That’s the whole point of obfuscating it in the first place. If you come out and say “Jews who control the world want to force everyone to eat bugs”, you sound like an idiot. So, you give it a candy coating to make it go down better, and hope a certain percentage will eventually “do their own research” and come to your desired conclusion.

It’s the most strategically sound method you can come up with to perpetuate the conspiracy theories in the modern day. It’s similar to how cults don’t start the recruitment process by walking up to you and going “Hey, want to join a cult?”

wanderer,

The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:
You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*****, n*****.”

thenation.com/…/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1…

fuckingkangaroos,

It’s part of the “other,” which is used to create fear that drives support for their politicians.

Right wing leaders and their propagandists can’t be too specific with concepts because large parts of them are contrived. They don’t need to be specific because their target audience is people who think and make decisions more with emotions, which doesn’t require clear concepts and terms, than reason.

“The left” absolutely does it too, although it’s not as bad.

prole,

With that stupid fucking “they want to make us eat bugs” bullshit…

MilitantVegan,

Every person still buying and consuming animal products paid for this.

SreudianFlip,

S.O.B.

SAVE OUR BEEF

Cruxifux,

You are part of the elite you stupid stupid fuck

LordCrom,

What an idiot. So now I can’t buy impossible burgers?

Clam_Man,

To my understanding, Impossible burgers are plant based / vegan. They aren’t lab grown meats of indistinguishably beef DNA.

Halcyon,
@Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Correct, those burgers are made from soy and potato protein. No meat in any form inside.

LordCrom,

Thats good to know. Still, our govenor is an idiot

Philharmonic3,

I ban your life

108,

Florida seems to ban something every week.

kent_eh,

Florida seems to ban something every week.

Brought to you by the “party defending your freedom”…

Fedizen,

and “small government”

inclementimmigrant,

Conservative are just so fucking stupid that it hurts my brains every god damn day having to deal with their fragile mental bullshit.

grrgyle,

Something about “global elite” just sounds antisemitic to me… is this the new new “international Jewry?”

Could be I just have a hair trigger response these days, though

AngryCommieKender,

I first read “International Jerry,” and wondered for a second what Seinfeld had done this time.

NeptuneOrbit,

It’s a dog whistle yes

cabron_offsets,

Pretty standard antisemitic dog whistle.

andros_rex,

Yeah - it’s an Alex Jones thing. “International bankers” or the “global elite” are conniving with George Soros and Bill Gates to make you live in a “fifteen minute city” and eat da bugs.

AngryCommieKender,

and eat da bugs.

I’M DOING MY PART!

Would you like to know more?

andros_rex,

Korean bar near me has a dish with silkworm pupae and I am certainly curious. Mealworms and crickets haven’t been bad, but I usually only eat them to psych out Boy Scouts.

grrgyle,

I’m imagining you going around grossing out actual children Boy Scouts by eating progressively weirder things in front of them

andros_rex,

Also showing off my pet vinegaroon, Tortilla (RIP), who’d make the whole room smell like vinegar and looked like a monster. Dare them to pet the hissing cockroaches and tell them about the professor at my university who let a tick feed off of her for weeks to prove that species was able to parasitize humans.

Most of my working life has been spent grossing out children, it’s pretty great.

grrgyle,

Hahaha that’s great

crispyflagstones,

I didn’t realize the market was so fragile and needed conservatives to control it so closely. You learn something new every day!

Entertainmeonly,

Ya, you know, free-market and all that. Exactly what they have been borking up a tree about for decades now.

/s for those that need it.

Zink,

Ok you guys, this is too silly. I’m not buying it any more. You can let me out of the simulation now.

crystalmerchant,

Subtly serve Ron a dish including lab grown meat for dinner one day, see if he notices the difference

the_third,

He doesn’t care, personally. However, he’s playing the 50% idiots that have been conditioned to put such non-problems ahead of every actual problem and corral themselves up in a circle of perceived persecution every time a keyword like “global elite” is dropped. He plays them because that’s what they are useful for.

myrrh,

I AM THE GLOBAL ELITE.
KNEEL BEFORE MY VEGAN MIGHT!
ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR.

grrgyle,

You offer it to me freely??

myrrh,

…well, no, it’s actually much more expensive than subsidised beef, but that’s not important right now: KNEEL!..

TenderfootGungi,

Lab grown meat is not vegan. It is “real” meat grown from animal cells. But yes, the joke is still funny.

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No true vegan? After a certain point that seems a bit like arguing that corn isn’t vegan because it was fertilized with cow droppings, but…

Snazz,

It depends on the type of vegan. If they are vegan because they don’t like hurting animals, then lab grown meat is fine. If they are vegan because eating meat has a negative effect on their health, then it’s not fine.

Grayox,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I want lab grown steaks so bad. Why are these ‘Capitalist’ so against the free market?

mojo_raisin,

I want a steak machine next to my ice maker!

buddascrayon,

They always have been. Capitalism isn’t about a free market, it’s about keeping the richest most powerful industrialists at the top.

NikkiDimes,

Imo this is clearly influenced by the meat lobby, National Cattleman’s Beef Association, or the like. They know many people would happily pay for lab grown meat, which would destroy their current market, forcing a costly pivot where they would lose their historic market control.

Whenever weird shit like this happens in the US, it’s all about money and market control and then painted as “protecting you from the EVIL LEFT” or some stupid shit.

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