Syringe

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Syringe,

I really hate the “us vs them” bullshit, but it’s real. I don’t like many of the Democrat policies and am on the progressive side. They suck. But the other side is literal child raping treason Nazis. The fact that I’m saying that with no hyperbole in 2024 is so fucking wild. I wanted the star Trek future with a merit based economy and green alien babes… Not this bullshit.

Syringe,

If you are a republican, then yes. Because gestures broadly at the Republicans

Syringe,

Hyperbole? Where’ve you been, dude?

Remember when republicans keep blocking bans on child marriage?

Or how about when they keep getting caught fucking kids?

Right? I know!

“But whaddabout… whaddabout… whaddabout…” When Anthony Weiner got nailed, Dems dropped him faster than Giuliani dropped his pants for an underage reporter. Go ahead ask me - between Gaetz and Wiener, which one is still a congressman? If Trump gets caught up in the Epstein thing, republicans will circle the wagons and deny deny deny. If Bill Clinton gets caught up in it, Dems will demand he goes the fuck to jail. You know… because crime.

Then there’s the January 6th thing. That sort of explains itself. Donald Trump and republicans tried to use a violent insurrection and fraudulent electors to overthrow a constitutionally mandated process… so… you know… treason. You’re a traitor for supporting it. This one’s pretty simple.

Oh right! And the nazi thing. Between the concentration camps, the continued support of white supremacy, the embracing of authoritarian fascism, the overt xenophobia, the book bans (and let’s not forget the burnings!) and the continuous use of murderous violence and terroristic death threats… but you know - I’m probably just exaggerating.

Dude - I’m not just riffing. This is objectively true. These are facts. This isn’t a just a difference in ideology. If conservatives were actually conservative and not… you know… the rest of that stuff, I’d be down for it. You might not have raped any kids personally, but you sure as shit support people who do. Like… at this point, democrats kinda suck, but repubs are moustache twirling, cartoon evil. It’s not even close. The only way that you’re still a republican is that you’re living under a rock, or you’re a child raping traitor nazi. There’s no ambiguity anymore.

Child raping traitor nazi is fitting and objectively verifiable. Stop supporting kid fuckers.

Syringe,

I genuinely tried to entertain this in the interest of being open minded. I hear your point, but it’s just not connecting in light of the fact that Trump has been a Russian asset for nearly forty years and actively engaged in insurrection against the United States. His handling of Covid murdered (yes) three million Americans that were preventable deaths in order to drive a partisan issue to further polarize Americans.

If things were less egregious, I might agree with you, but these things are not equivalent. It’s just horse shit.

Top White House budget official warns of ‘dire’ situation on Ukraine aid (apnews.com)

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden’s top budget official warned in stark terms Friday about the rapidly diminishing time that lawmakers have to replenish U.S. aid for Ukraine, as the fate of that money to Kyiv remains tied up in negotiations over immigration where a deal has so far been out of reach....

Syringe,

We’ve known for about a decade now that the Republicans are on the Russian payroll. The war in Ukraine impedes their goals and has stifled their funds. They are traitors to the United States and her people and enemies of democracy.

Syringe,

Follow up on the rail workers thing. I had to eat a bit of crow on that one myself.

Syringe,

Preventative care is ENORMOUSLY cheaper than emergency care. Hospitals have a mandate to provide life saving care to anyone regardless of insurance or documentation status. When they don’t have health insurance, they wait until it’s an emergency and either destabilize the hospital system or raise premiums for everyone.

This is another example where “it’s just cheaper to pay for it”. It’s also another position that so called conservatives are against, even though it’s far more fiscally conservative to support. Guess y’all can’t get past that crab mentality.

The Biden administration once again bypasses Congress on an emergency weapons sale to Israel (www.pbs.org)

For the second time this month the Biden administration is bypassing Congress to approve an emergency weapons sale to Israel as Israel continues to prosecute its war against Hamas in Gaza under increasing international criticism.

Syringe, (edited )

You’re really not getting it, are you? With the assault in Ukraine, the US MIL got the opportunity to clear out some old stock and potentially divert world war 3 into a stalemate. It was great for a bit. The gaza conflict gives the US a greater opportunity to really play to its strengths and pursue a thread of great historic national interest… Bombing brown people.

There’s potentially oil there that needs freedom, and nobody exports more freedom for oil than the US

/S …I think? I’m having a bit of an Idiocracy moment right now.

Syringe,

… And Tulsa, OK, Iraq, Afghanistan, standing Rock SD, Vietnam, Korea… Palestine…

It kind of just goes on, doesn’t it?

Syringe,

I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted. Mushrooms are awesome. Loads of fun. They don’t treat any issues though (other than the issue of not being fucked up).

A research study came out showing that in controlled environments, they found that there were significant changes that could lead to the potential for treatment and I think everyone now thinks that a fist full of mushrooms will fix mental health issues. They won’t.

I think you’re probably being a bit dramatic about an “accident or bodily harm”, but it’s not out of the question. Mostly in danger of texting all of your ex’s.

But you’re right. Go to qualified professionals for help with PTSD. Not your weird uncle or the kid growing shrooms in his dorm room. Want to get high? That is the problem that mushrooms solve.

theguardian.com/…/magic-mushrooms-could-help-ex-s…

Syringe,

“clearly” is uhh… Ambitious. We’re on the same page here. I’ve just heard people use these studies as fact more than a few times and wasn’t sure why you were getting downvoted.

Syringe,

“CNNs Dana Bash puts microphone in front known liar and is surprised when he lies”

Fucking media. Stop giving attention to these clowns.

Syringe,

It’s a good thing she told all of the right people that this happened so that we could avoid an obvious coup and threat to the constitution that she swore an oath to protect…

Amirite, guys?!?

Why did the room get so quiet?

Syringe,

This is why we don’t do Thanksgiving with the fam anymore

Syringe,

It’s been a far right echo chamber for about ten years now, so I don’t know that this holds up.

Trump can be held civilly liable in Jan. 6 riot, judges rule (archive.is)

Washington Post: Donald Trump can be held civilly liable for the actions of the mob that attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, an appeals court ruled Friday in a long-awaited decision that could clear the way for lawsuits seeking financial damages from the former president.

Syringe,

It sounds like you’re diminishing or don’t understand the level of polarity that this has created. My family are now Nazis. Not like a little bit. Not like an exaggeration. Like… “Restore power to the master race and eradicate everyone else”

These are not the people I grew up with. How do I break bread with these people? How do I share a table with enemies of democracy and the Constitution? How many screaming matches and fist fights (yes) do I get into calling them on their bullshit before I’m supposed to give up? How do I avoid taking about politics when they turn literally everything into a challenge or litmus test?

This is anecdotal, so take this all with a grain of salt, but there aren’t many people that I’ve talked to that don’t have a similar story. I just don’t think you’re giving enough credence to the damage that trump and the fascists are doing to the fabric of America.

Syringe,

Again, I think you’re not understanding how drastic this has been. These are people that have been brainwashed and radicalized. They have become addicted to outrage and pushed into an echo chamber, furthering their descent. It is insidious what happened to these people.

I think I understand the point you’re trying to make, but I don’t think I can bite. “if they fell for it, they must’ve been awful people who didn’t love you enough” feels very “No true Scotsman” and I can’t shake the logical fallacy of it.

No. Trump did not create these people. Thirty years of propaganda did. Fox news playing on televisions in police stations, military bases, and hospital waiting rooms did. Trump was the culmination of a dark and fucked up anti American plot by Republicans, but not really the cause of it.

Still though, I think you may not understand the real gravity of what’s occurring. Reasonable people are being corrupted into hate by decades of propaganda. Assholitry is being weaponized into extremism, and all of these people are true believers. This is eroding something at the very basic core of our society, and the election of Trump signaled the start of a full scale war on democracy. Dismissing the efficacy and severity of this is cavalier.

Syringe,

Ding fuckin dong.

Should have died in the Hague

Syringe,

A second Second amendment, if you will. They won’t even tack it on to the end, just use 2 twice.

Syringe,

Sort of seems like there should be now though, eh?

Syringe,

Well we don’t seem to be putting anyone in there these days, so I’m really not sure.

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