@YungOnions@sh.itjust.works

YungOnions

@YungOnions@sh.itjust.works

Challenge defeatism.

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YungOnions,

Is that not what Amazon Logistics is? Or is that last mile only?

YungOnions,

Great. This will help force more in-country recycling and, by extension, force governments to pressure companies into producing less plastic waste for them to have to recycle. Good stuff.

YungOnions,

Doomscrolling or seeking out bad news is really bad for your health. www.openaccessgovernment.org/…/143139/

If you feel the (understandable) need to share your issues with others there are much healthier was to do this. Bad news is literally addictive and it is important to break that habit fastcompany.com/…/how-to-stop-your-brains-addicti…

If you still find it necessary to scroll bad news, maybe offset by ending with some positive news as well? groovnow.com/…/where-to-find-good-news-online

It’s important to try and stay happy, friend, now more than ever.

YungOnions,

There’s nothing to be gained by looking at bad news all the time. You must balance it with good news, if for nothing else than to stay informed. There are more positive communities on Lemmy: goodnews@kbin.social or upliftingnews@lemmy.world for example, but you’re right negativity, doomerism and defeatism is prevalent on the platform and you absolutely should leave if you find it affecting your mental health.

Please take the time to visit at least some of those websites I linked via my first comment. It does wonders being reminded that the world isn’t doom and gloom all the time like the media likes to pretend it is.

YungOnions,

It’s always in the hands with AI. In this case really fat or missing fingers.

YungOnions,

The only guarantee of failure is not to try.

YungOnions,

Always good to see nature making improvements.

BTW @merlu I see you posting all these good news stories and I want you to know I appreciate your work. Positive news is just as important, if not more so, these days. Please keep it up.👍

YungOnions,

We need more of these academic style articles that push a more optimistic outlook. The constant bombardment of (understandably) negative messages around the climate crisis risks making change appear hopeless, and motivation to change a trait to be ridiculed in the face of ‘realistic’ models of collapse. We need to be kept informed of all aspects of the challenge - negative and positive, to ensure expectations are kept unsentimental and rational.

YungOnions,

Sure, I can understand that. I think maybe I didn’t explain myself particularly well. I was mostly referring to the discourse you tend to get online, including Lemmy, where any even vaguely positive climate/environment news is dog-piled by comments stating how it’s not enough, won’t work or is otherwise ‘actually a bad thing™’.

We have been so saturated with negative news around climate change etc that anything to the contrary is misinterpreted as false. It’s exhausting, and risks drowning any positivity and motivation under a torrent of defeatism. It also becomes a convenient scapegoat, facilitating the excuse of doing nothing under the guise of ‘well, we’re all doomed so why bother even trying?’. That isn’t the kind of false reasoning we can afford to foster.

Im obviously not advocating that we bury our head in the sand and pretend everything is fine, but we do need more fairly balanced reporting to ensure that everyone stays informed, and that optimism and positivity can be used to encourage and motivate, rather than trying to replace that with fear, hopelessness and depression. Fuck knows there’s enough of that about as it is.

YungOnions,

Yeah, you and me both. It’s only natural. It’s not really selfishness, I’d argue it’s more like survival. I think that things are likely to get real ugly just when my partner and I hit retirement and start getting frail. Not much I can do about that other than prepare, but ultimately you and I are not going to see the end of this issue in our lifetimes, but we can collectively help ensure that the younger generations do. ‘A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit’ and all that. It sucks but that makes it all the more important learn to celebrate things like this article that’ll help make it suck less. Enjoy the little wins.

YungOnions,

No problem :) Here’s some more good news stories. Stay happy if you can, friend.

futurecrunch.com/goodnews/

YungOnions,

Why’re you acting so angry about this?

YungOnions,

Yeah, likewise. I got confused and excited when I saw this post. Just disappointed now, lol.

YungOnions,

Bingo. Well said.

YungOnions,

So, what’s your proposed solution? Because at the moment protests like this are working and simply throwing up our hands and saying ‘it’s impossible’ isn’t an option. So what to do? I’d argue we keep doing things like this until a better solution is found, what about you?

YungOnions,

bbc.com/…/20230421-earth-day-the-science-of-clima…

theconversation.com/heres-why-we-need-climate-pro…

www.dw.com/en/…/a-61379793

Of course they work. Not as quickly and as well as we might hope, but they do work. You say that a global shift in culture is needed. I agree and these protests are an essential part of shift.

Also, support for wide ranging global change is more wide spread than you might think, and these protests are a example of that: undp.org/…/worlds-largest-survey-public-opinion-c…

I understand that none of this is easy, but again what are you proposing we do instead? If you believe protests are not enough on their own then what, in your opinion, is the solution? Genuine question. You mention a global shift in culture is required. How? Let’s talk.

YungOnions,

Yes, I can understand that, but surely you can understand that getting to the point of nations no longer using oil isn’t going to happen overnight? That change, that ‘global shift in culture’ you mention isn’t something we’ll wake up to tomorrow. They’ll be no single event we can point to and say ‘see? It’s fixed!’. Change will be formed from millions of events, large and small. The point im making is that this change is happening, slowly yes, but it is happening. These protests that you say are not working are part of the very same culture shift you state (correctly) is required.

Also, don’t forget that in the space of a few years renewables have gone from basically a pipe dream to being so affordable and upscaleable that oil companies are losing their shit. They know the writing is on the wall and they are doing everything they can to prevent that. You are literally watching their demise. Are they not going down without a fight? No. Are the world’s governments still too set in their ways? Yes. Is this change happening too slow? Also yes. But again, it is happening, and I’ll take slow change over none any day.

And you know what? Maybe, just maybe doing something will have no affect. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t at least try. The only guarantee of failure is to not even try in the first place.

You seem frustrated by the state of things, and I get that. Its all too easy to read all the negativity in the media and lose track of the wider picture. It’s awful watching the powers that be dally and drag their feet whilst the world burns and people die. But let’s try and not make our first reaction to positive action, like this story be defeatism.

Here are some good news stories from around the world. Maybe take some time to read them and remind yourself that good things are happening? It’s important to stay informed, not just about the bad news but about the good stuff as well:

futurecrunch.com/goodnews/

YungOnions,

Tbf there is only really anecdotal evidence regarding the benefits of flossing, anyway: snopes.com/…/flossing-isnt-backed-by-science/

YungOnions,

This is a really neat idea. There’s a golf course near me that would be ideal for something like this.

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