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gjm

@gjm@mathstodon.xyz

Mathematician. Reader. Fiftysomething. Cruciverbalist. Not very good at thinking of witty things to put in short bios.

I wasn't on Twitter before that nice Mr Musk suggested that everyone go to Mastodon, and I don't expect to be very active here, but who knows?

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cstross, to random
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Not enough people realize that the "Turing Test" as originally presented was "can a gay English man in 1945 tell the difference between a chatbot and a femme-coded woman" over a teletype connection.

(Turing was very gay and had a sex-segregated education and then work life: he basically didn't know women and his alienation is palpable. But today's techbros don't have any such excuse, and the emphasis on femme-coded AI is ... telling.)
https://mastodon.xyz/@pmorinerie/112506480363973206

gjm,
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@cstross Turing's paper does set up the "imitation game" in a way that suggests a machine specifically trying to imitate a woman. But it's pretty clear that the sex difference isn't what's on Turing's mind -- the rest of the paper is full of "it will be assumed that the best strategy is to try to provide answers that would naturally be given by a man" and "Is it true that [...] C can be made to play satisfactorily the part of A in the imitation game, the part of B being taken by a man?"

Which is all pretty sexist, of course, but a different kind of sexist. I think the business about men and women in the setup is there only for the sake of vividity and Turing isn't really supposing that the machine is specifically trying to pretend to be a man as opposed to a woman, or a woman as opposed to a man.

(The intentions of today's AI companies are a different matter.)

gregeganSF, to random
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Wow, Thomas Hales and Koundinya Vajjha have proved Mahler’s First Conjecture! (That’s Kurt Mahler, not Gustave.)

https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.04331

Mahler’s First Conjecture says that the centrally symmetric convex shape with the worst possible packing ratio is made up of straight lines and arcs of hyperbolas, like the smoothed octagons shown in the animation below (demonstrating a 1-parameter family of slightly different packings all with the same density).

Whether these smoothed octagons are, as Karl Reinhardt conjectured, the actual worst case is still an open problem.

A bit more detail on Reinhardt’s conjecture in this article by @johncarlosbaez :

https://blogs.ams.org/visualinsight/2014/11/01/packing-smoothed-octagons/

and this thread by Koundinya Vajjha on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/KodyVajjha/status/1790211313618362848

A 1-parameter family of packings of smoothed octagons.

gjm,
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@gregeganSF @johncarlosbaez So, he's done best possible packings and worst-possible packings. Next up: most mediocre possible packings!

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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From Tom Bowler on TBBBS:

"Someone else posted this yesterday and it's great fun! Sharing with FM class today. How will you do in 20 minutes?"

It's the MIT Integration Bee Qualifying Test.

https://twitter.com/Ridermeister/status/1783418201247752622

gjm,
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@christianp @ColinTheMathmo Eh, I thought they were kinda fun. In every case it was an exercise in "can you spot the trick?" and enough of the tricks were at least semi-interesting to hold my interest.

(Except maybe for 16, which feels like it should be straightforward but somehow isn't working out for me so far. I suspect I've done something stupid or missed something easy, and it does fall under the rubric of "spot the trick that makes it simple" even though I either haven't spotted it or have screwed it up.)

I'm old and slow (at least compared with when I was younger and quicker) so I certainly didn't do them all in 20 minutes.

The "finals" problems at https://math.mit.edu/~yyao1/pdf/2024_finals.pdf are ... somewhat tougher.

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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Asking for a friend(*) ...

"I need to brush up on some Pure Maths for a thing, and I find I'm pretty rusty. Can any of m'Maths friends recommend a good book on rings and ideals, and that end of algebra?"

(*) No, really ...

gjm,
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@ColinTheMathmo What I have on my shelf is Hartley & Hawkes, "Rings, Modules and Linear Algebra". Fairly short. Looks pretty clear from a quick glance. Seems to be out of print but available second-hand at reasonable prices.

Part I (~90pp): rings and modules: definitions and examples of rings; subrings, homomorphisms, ideals; direct sums, polynomial rings, etc.; integral domains and factorization; modules (inc. homomorphisms, quotients, direct sums); a few special classes of modules.

Part II (~45pp): decomposition theorems for f.g. modules over a p.i.d.

Part III (~50pp): applications to groups and matrices: f.g. abelian groups as ℤ-modules, linear transformations, matrices, canonical forms; computation of canonical forms.

I somehow don't have a copy of Herstein to compare with.

christianp, to random
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The people whose house we want to buy have just decided they're not selling after all. We have a cash buyer for ours and lawyers were about to start doing searches.

I feel like smashing things.

gjm,
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@christianp House-buying is just such a miserable business in every way.

First there's all the searching. Everything is too expensive. Nothing is quite what you need. And the process of house-searching corrupts your soul, so that for the next six months every time you go into someone else's house part of your brain will be thinking "hmm, it's probably worth this much, and we'd need to put some more bookshelves there", etc.

If you're buying with a mortgage, which almost everyone is, then you have to arrange one, and they're designed to be confusing and make it hard to know just what you will actually end up paying, and the mortgage providers will want to dig into your finances to verify that you're rich enough to be fit to do business with, and it's tedious and demeaning.

Then you have to actually buy the damn thing, which involves endless lawyering and the constant feeling that if someone makes a trivial slip then it could have life-ruining consequences. And it takes sooo long, and an annoying amount of getting multiple sets of ducks all in a row.

Then you move all your stuff, and possibly have to buy a load of new stuff, and you just know that some of those boxes are going to take a year before you get around to unpacking them.

And at the end of the process, yes, you have a hopefully-nice new house. But you also have much less money, or a mountain of debt, or both.

(But at least you aren't just pouring rent money into an everlasting black hole. However miserable house-buying is, house-renting is even worse.)

johncarlosbaez, (edited ) to random
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There are a lot of deep conjectures about L-functions. For example, there’s the Langlands program. And the Riemann Hypothesis counts too, because the Riemann zeta function is the grand-daddy of all L-functions! But there’s also a million-dollar prize for proving another conjecture about L-functions. It's called the Birch-Swinnerton and Dyer Conjecture, and it's about L-functions of elliptic curves.

So if you want to learn about this stuff, you may try to learn the definition of an L-function of an elliptic curve. And if you go someplace like Wikipedia, you'll immediately hit an obstacle: the definition is very complicated.

In fact it's so complicated that I figured there's no way this can be the real definition. I started simplifying it a bit here:

https://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/2024/03/counting_points_on_elliptic_cu.html

But I guessed I could simplify it a lot more.

(1/3)

gjm,
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@johncarlosbaez Knapp's book on elliptic curves kinda-sorta has your definition (but not as a definition, and not stated very explicitly) in section X.2. The other elliptic curve books I have (of which there aren't many, and they're all fairly low-level) don't seem to talk about the relationship between L-functions and zeta functions.

christianp, to random
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I'm pretty disappointed to see that mathstodon.xyz is pretty low down this ranking of instances by percentage of images with alt text. https://mastodon.social/@AltTextHealthCheck/111994660926898501

Pals! We can do better! It doesn't take long and it's not hard to add alt text to any images or videos you post.

gjm,
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@christianp That's surprising to me. I'm pretty sure the great majority of images I see here have alt text. (I just did a quick scroll down my feed and it's definitely doing better than 47%, and most of the alt-less images I see are actually from other servers.)

gjm,
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@christianp I'm pretty sure the denominator has to be images rather than posts or users.

christianp, to random
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The 3-year-old 🧒: "Is it later now?"

The answer is either "yes, by definition" or "no, by definition", but I'm not sure which.

gjm,
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@christianp Ha! There's a third possibility (which maybe you're deliberately ignoring for comic effect): if 3yo is asking that question because earlier you said something like "we can do X later", then they may be asking "is it time to do X yet?", and that answer is neither trivially yes nor trivially no.

gjm,
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@christianp Hooray! I am successfully able to think at the level of a 3-year-old. :-)

siderea, to random

Is there a term that is the parallel of "latinate" that means the equivalent for Greek?

Like in the phrase "a preference for latinate and [Greek-ish?] naming conventions".

gjm,
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@siderea I'd expect one to begin "gr[a]ec-" and the OED contains no such word with that meaning. (There's also "Hellenist[ic]" but that refers to a particular type of Greek and also doesn't appear to have the right shade of meaning.)

So it looks like the answer might be no.

(For the specific phrase there, "classical" might kinda do the job of "latinate and [that-word-that-maybe-doesn't-exist]", though I don't think it exactly fits.)

fanf, to random
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on my blog!

joining ellipses with matching tangents

https://dotat.at/@/2024-02-05-joining-ellipses.html

once again featuring an interactive diagram

gjm,
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@fanf You ask whether there's a formula; I think there is.

Let's put the corner at (0,0) and consider the "horizontal" ellipse, which has to pass horizontally through, say, (-a,-b). (I'm choosing signs to try to make parameters usually-positive.)

An "axis-aligned" ellipse is 𝑝(𝑋−𝑢)²+𝑞(𝑌−𝑣)²=1 where (𝑢,𝑣) is the centre. In this case we know 𝑢=−𝑎. So this is 𝑝(𝑋+𝑎)²+𝑞(𝑌−𝑣)²=1.

Differentiating, we get 𝑝(𝑋+𝑎)𝑑𝑋+𝑞(𝑌−𝑣)𝑑𝑌=0, so the requirement 𝑑𝑋=𝑑𝑌 at (0,0) says 𝑝𝑎=𝑞𝑣.

Passing through (0,0) says 𝑝𝑎²+𝑞𝑣²=1. Passing through (−𝑎,−𝑏) says 𝑞(𝑏+𝑣)²=1.

The first two of these equations say 𝑝=1/𝑎(𝑎+𝑣) and 𝑞=1/𝑣(𝑎+𝑣). Then the third says (𝑏+𝑣)²=𝑣(𝑎+𝑣) and hence 𝑣=𝑏²/(𝑎−2𝑏).

Sanity-check: your diagram here looks like it has roughly (a,b)=(4,1). This gives v=1/2, p=1/18, q=4/9 meaning centre at (-4,1/2), semimajor axis 3 sqrt(2), semiminor axis 3/2, all of which looks plausible.

gjm,
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@fanf It looks like you have a very different equation for q from mine; you've got let q = b+v; where I'd have let q = 1/(v*(a+v));.

And then I think you're treating p,q as semiaxes, but they aren't that, they're 1 / semiaxis^2. So I think you want to use 1/sqrt(p) and 1/sqrt(q) as your semiaxes.

Try this:

 function gjm(a,b) {  
 let v = b*b / (a - 2*b);  
 let q = 1 / (v*v + a*v);  
 let p = 1 / (a*a + a*v);  
 spot(0, Y - v, 10);  
 return [p,q];  
 }  
 (function() {  
 style(1, "#800", "#8008");  
 let [a,b] = gjm(X, B - Y);  
 a = 1/Math.sqrt(a); b = 1/Math.sqrt(b);  
 console.log(A,B)  
 console.log(X,Y)  
 console.log(a,b)  
 console.log(B-b)  
 ellipse(0,B-b,a,b);  
 })()  
gjm,
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@fanf (ah, triple-backquote formatting doesn't do what I hoped it might, at least not in the web UI, but no matter)

christianp, (edited ) to random
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The following will probably only make sense to people in the UK.

I have a vague sense that the job of "lollipop person" used to be fairly strongly gendered, but I can't remember which way - is it lollipop man, or lollipop lady? I feel like "lollipop lady" sounds more like what I said growing up, but both lollipop people at my kids' school are men and I've overthought it and now I'm suffering from semantic satiation.

So, was it a lollipop man or a lollipop lady when you were at school?

gjm,
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@christianp No recollection from when I was at school, but my brain-autocomplete strongly prefers "lady" to "man".

johncarlosbaez, (edited ) to random
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Which force is stronger: gravity or electromagnetism?

Unfortunately this question is like "if they had a fight, which would win: a lion or a shark?" It depends on the details. Like: are they fighting on land or in water?

So, we should be more precise. Suppose you have two electrons at rest. They repel due to electromagnetism - this is usually called the 'electrostatic' force - and they attract due to gravity. The electrostatic force between them is about 4.17 × 10⁴² times bigger than the gravitational force.

But suppose you have two protons. Their charge is just as big as that of the electron, with the opposite sign. But they are 1836 times as massive. So now we have to divide by 1836². The electrostatic force between protons is only 1.24 × 10³⁶ times bigger than the gravitational force. Still a lot, of course.

These statements are true for a wide range of distances. We could talk about what happens if the distance between the particles gets really small or really big, but very conservatively any distance between 10⁻¹⁰ meters and 10¹⁰ meters should be fine here.

Thanks to facts like this, people often say that electromagnetism is 10⁴⁰ times stronger than gravity. That's both vague and very rough, but it's easy to remember.

When you're dealing with stars, something very different happens. Their total charge tends to be very small, per atom - precisely because electromagnetism is so strong that a highly charged star would explode! So the gravitational force between stars is vastly bigger than the electrostatic force between them.

And the same is true of other really big things, like planets or galaxies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr22g7UK6l8

gjm,
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@johncarlosbaez @mattmcirvin Becoming useless?

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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Hah ... just worked out that by PhD ancestry, Oppenheimer and I are 2nd cousins twice removed ... he is second cousins with Erdös, who is my "grandfather".

Not the it means anything, but it's still kinda weird.

gjm,
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@ColinTheMathmo Also, and much less interestingly, you're my uncle. (My PhD supervisor was one of Bela's students.)

gjm,
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@ColinTheMathmo Yup. Always went by Keith rather than Thomas, so far as I know. Very nice chap.

cstross, (edited ) to random
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Just a reminder that in addition to not understanding correct plural forms and the use of the apostrophe, the behaviour this troll is advocating often leads to trilogies being cancelled after the second book: publishers see diminishing book-to-book sales and cut their losses ruthlessly. If you want to read a trilogy, buy the books as they come out—or you may not get a chance to read the third at all. https://herhandsmyhands.wordpress.com/2024/01/05/is-that-you-debra/

gjm,
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@cstross It would probably be possible (which is not to say it would be a good idea) to set up a mechanism where a reader can commit that if all the books in a promised series get published then they will immediately buy all of them, in a way that lets the publisher (and author) see that the demand is there even though the earlier books aren't being bought yet.

I can't see it actually working very well: it would be difficult, or at least more trouble than it'd be worth, to force readers to pay up, and publishers and authors still wouldn't be getting the money until the whole series was finished.

You could layer on further complexity to deal with the second of those problems: no doubt there would be financial institutions willing to buy "$X+$Y+$Z once all three books are done" and sell "something less than $X when the first book is done, something less than $Y when the second book is done, and something less than $Z when the third is done". But I expect everyone involved would hate it.

rakyat, to random
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Already the hype has worn down and you can pretty much see where this is going. https://json.blog/2023/12/27/openai-is-just.html?ref=birchtree.me

gjm,
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@rakyat When Uber came along, it didn't involve any technological advances to speak of. Today's AI systems do. The relevant difference is that technological progress sometimes continues.

So the pro-Uber narrative was something like "we're doing a new thing, and it may turn out to be a huge win". The pro-AI narrative is more like "this stuff is improving fast; 5 years ago it was hopeless, now it's arguably comparable with humans for a lot of things we wouldn't have thought machines could do; in 5 years it might be much better than humans at all those things."

It might turn out that no such progress materializes. It might turn out that it does and it's terrible (we all lose our jobs, or lots of wealth gets transferred to people who are already fabulously wealthy at everyone else's expense, or the robots kill all the humans, or whatever). But it's a different situation from Uber -- there's actual progress to extrapolate from which might or might not pan out.

ColinTheMathmo, to random
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This looks like an accessible problem to someone with the right skills:

https://www.primepuzzles.net/problems/prob_082.htm

The Pythagorean triple (3,4,5) consists of the triangular number 3, the square number 4 and the pentagonal number 5. Other such triples are (9,12,15), (100,105,145) and (900,2625,2775).

Can you find more like these four already found?

gjm,
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@ColinTheMathmo This has been discussed a bit on a mailing list I frequent, where (1) someone has observed that it looks like each way of choosing which variable is which sort of number leads (using the usual parameterization of Pythagorean triples) to an algebraic curve of genus 3, and there's a famous theorem saying that such a curve has only finitely many rational solutions, so we'd expect there only to be a finite number of solutions, and (2) someone else has done the number-crunching for solutions with largest number up to about 10^14, and found no new solutions.

So my guess is that there aren't any more.

(I think proving that one's found all the possible solutions to a thing like this is generally difficult, but I'm not an expert.)

gjm, to random
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I just discovered that a jokey comment I posted in Another Place was screenshotted and posted with the serial numbers filed off by someone else on Twitter, where it got (what so far as I know are) a lot of likes and views.

The weird thing is that the way I discovered it is by getting an email from the person who plagiarized it with subject "fyi your hn spinal tap joke went viral on twitter" and a link.

ColinTheMathmo, (edited ) to random
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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit. -- Aristotle, as summarised by Will Durant (https://wist.info/aristotle/1334/)

gjm,
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@ColinTheMathmo yeah, seems OK to me.

johncarlosbaez, (edited ) to random
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If you draw all roots of all polynomials whose coefficients are ±1, you get an amazing picture that raises lots of challenging puzzles!

I really hope someone reads our short article:

https://www.ams.org/journals/notices/202309/rnoti-p1495.pdf

and solves the main puzzle: why do the fractal regions of this set look so much like "dragon sets"? We have a good heuristic explanation, but no proof yet.

People sometimes get excited about math when they learn about fractals, and then disappointed when they discover rather few professional mathematicians prove theorems about fractals. If you ever wanted to prove a cool theorem about fractals, this could be your chance!

If you read part 2, I'll show you what I'm talking about.

(1/2)

gjm,
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@gregeganSF @johncarlosbaez Does the paper actually explain anywhere how that figure was drawn?

It doesn't look like it to me, but I haven't read the paper carefully.

It's a plot of roots of minimal polynomials of "expansion constants" (= exp(entropy)) associated with certain dynamical systems on the unit interval.

There's an explicitly stated theorem of the form "x is an expansion constant for such a system iff it's a positive real algebraic integer whose absolute value is bigger than that of any of its Galois conjugates".

Except that that's for a more general class of dynamical systems, in which the function being iterated can wlog be taken to be a polynomial of arbitrary degree, and the "entropy bagel" picture (which Thurston doesn't call by that name) shows all the conjugates of expansion constants derived from quadratic polynomials.

The paper talks quite a bit about what's going on when the polynomials have bounded degree, but if there's an explicit criterion or algorithm given then I've failed to see it.

(Most likely it's there, or at least implicitly so, and I have failed to see it.)

gjm,
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@gregeganSF @johncarlosbaez Well, the paper does say how to find all the expansion constants for postcritically finite maps. But what it doesn't (at least on my cursory reading) clarify is how you find specifically the expansion constants for postcritically finite quadratic maps.

(The entropy, hence the expansion constant, is invariant under a fairly large class of transformations of the maps, which allegedly means it's enough to consider only polynomials, and "only quadratic maps" here is apparently equivalent to "only maps with a single turning point".)

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