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ljs

@ljs@social.kernel.org

Linux kernel mm contributor, kernel/systems developer, writing a book about mm.

C/C++/(rust at some point!)

Book - https://linuxmemory.org/
Me - https://ljs.io/
Music - https://soundcloud.com/distal_music/

Arsenal fan, cat maniac, synth experimentalist. Brit.

Opinions are all my own and represent nobody else.

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ljs, to random
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Since I'm being boring and moaning about the scam de jour again, let me also go 'WTF' about people blindly taking the word of people who stand to make BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on this topic at face value?

Like I don't fucking want to hear 'the CEO of nvidia says AI stuff is incredible', yeah OBVIOUSLY he says that, I mean jesus christ how naive are people??

"I asked the local butcher whether he thinks more people should buy meat and he said they should!"

WOWWWW!!

ljs,
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@kirby @a1ba actually you definitely shouldn't use linux it's terrible

Use OS/2 instead

ljs,
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@a1ba @kirby NO. OS/2.

ljs,
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@lanodan @kirby @a1ba FreeBSD engineers stop crying long enough to give recommendations? Wow

ljs,
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@a1ba @kirby @lanodan yes in the same way you 'share' your living room with a home invader

ljs,
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@kirby @lanodan @a1ba haha no drama from me man, I love these cute hobbyist projects live + let live

ljs,
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@kirby @a1ba @lanodan they have a great license too, like redis, big fan

ljs,
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@kirby @lanodan @mischievoustomato @a1ba they keep their userland tools very up to date too

ljs,
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@lanodan @kirby @a1ba what no BeOS??

Sad times

ljs,
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@lanodan @kirby @a1ba I recommend MacOS to anybody who's not insane enough to use linux, it is my default OS recommendation

captainepoch, to random

Guys, @vbabka wants me to work for Cannonical, should I accept?

ljs,
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@vbabka @captainepoch I'm innocent! I simply convey the statement that you believe the best coffee in Czechia is starbucks

DJDarren, to random
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Been reading a thread about Britain’s ‘obesity epidemic’, and it’s amazing how many thin people know how to fix it.

People clamber over themselves to wax lyrical about how we should encourage more exercise (we should), and how fast food joints should be held to account (they should), but the loudest voices never talk about it being a mental health issue.

I’m a fat fuck, I know I should exercise more and eat better. I did that for a year once and lost 30kg. Then I put it all back on again.

ljs,
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@DJDarren as some of the replies to this thread indicate, people are so dead set on giving you a fucking lecture as if you don't know what to do they don't want to embrace the key point here which is that obesity is 100% a mental health issue.

And I speak from the position of somebody who has lost 15kg this year, I got the gym 6 days a week, I am super dedicated, yada yada.

That's not the point, the point is that I am addicted to shitty food, I love shitty food, I am like a recovering 'foodoholic' and can never be trusted around food generally ever, like ever. I have to maintain some kind of strict control forever or I'll pile it back on.

For me, I'm sure you can relate, the issue is food is one of the best drugs going, best ways of dealing with stress/anxiety/etc.

The only way I am making changes really is by having a totally bloody minded mentality at the gym and using the desire to gain muscle/lose fat to reveal the muscle to cope with giving up that drug/being strict.

Without that I'd just fuck it again, and maybe I still will I can't guarantee it. And hey I can look forward to bulking phases right? ;)

Thin people giving you long patronising lessons about caloric deficit while not grasping the mental health aspect is one of the most irritating aspects of this whole thing, fuck me haha.

kernellogger, to linux
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"[…] It is clear that the current process is based on the learnings, and frustrations, the [ 's CVE] team has faced in the past. […] By taking this position, this effort is now duplicated across thousands of engineering teams ad infinitum, […]"

Well, yeah, but guess what: maybe then the companies behind those engineering teams will join up and invest money to handle the problem "[…] at the source, in a central, efficient and reliable manner. […]". 😬

https://amanitasecurity.com/posts/dear-linux-kernel-cna-what-have-you-done/

ljs,
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@kernellogger you know being part of the kernel community involves actually PUSHING BACK sometimes instead of just repeating the 'company line'.

So far it seems you are simply repeating Greg's points and ignoring the (copious) push back on this.

Quite credibly this is one giant troll designed to essentially attack the whole broken mess of CVEs, many people have pointed out how this is an issue.

It strikes me as quite naive to think that companies should now funnel cash + resources into filtering a ton of 'security' issues that are very obviously not, on top of the already questionable stable practices.

ljs,
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@pavel @vegard @gregkh @kernellogger @larsmb the issue for me as an outsider to this (currently not employed within the kernel, though contributing to it a fair bit) is the utter denial that there are consequences like that coming from the pro- side despite the opposing side saying 'yes maybe we shouldn't care but customers care, regulators care, etc. etc' and the other side >/dev/null.

Having a conversation starts with acking or refuting what the other side has to say, not acting like it wasn't said.

Again, happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong here! Just my perspective.

ljs,
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@vegard @kernellogger @larsmb @gregkh @pavel yes, I've generally not commented on this as a. I'm not involved with an enterprise kernel at this point and b. the complexities of the issue, but from my perspective it's the lack of acking how the reality of how kernels are used by the companies which fund a huge amount of core dev.

I mean even if you think the way it's done is awful there should be some acknowledgement of that fact, especially when people are explicitly saying 'dude we are in a position where we have to filter through this stuff'.

And I think the whole 'well there's a ton of bugs who knows which could be a security flaw' is dubious at best.

Some bugs are very clearly more problematic or have more clearly been shown to be security flaws than others.

Of course all this speaks to how incredibly crap the whole CVE system is as a whole, but I'm just not sure going nuclear is the way forward.

I think the kernel taking control of the CNA side is good, the spamming aspect, seems not so good.

ljs,
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@vegard @kernellogger @larsmb @gregkh @pavel I am pretty sure there are scripts involved here, look at Pavel's example.

EDIT: Also on the 'go nuclear' point, the original email literally states 'the CVE assignment team is overly cautious and assign CVE numbers to any bugfix that they identify. This explains the seemingly large number of CVEs that are issued by the Linux kernel team."

That very much speaks to going nuclear, every single 'bug fix' (however you want to define that, autosel for instance blurs lines) is likely to be quite a few. And given the use of scripts in stable process highly likely to be at least partially automated.

ljs,
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@vegard @kernellogger @larsmb @gregkh @pavel this strikes me as a classic mistake people make with probabilistic things.

That anything could be true doesn't mean that everything is equally likely to be true.

There are heuristics that can be used to determine whether something is more/less likely to be a problem, and spamming every single possibility to something that's clearly intended to be more filtered than that is, again, a nuclear option.

ljs, to random
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I must confess I am not a HUGE fan of python

ljs,
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@a1ba I'm 166cm but the fan element is less the case

ljs,
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@screwdriver @a1ba :'(

HailsandAles, to random
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@jake4480 Did you check out the new Atoll by any chance?

ljs,
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@lkundrak @HailsandAles @jake4480 this toot really taking a toll on my day

ljs, to random
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Jim is possibly happy to see you!

ljs,
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@Pineywoozle I dared disturb his majesty with a photo

ljs,
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@Pineywoozle he's a real sweetheart but he's also a recovering semi-feral so still getting used to being around humans again (come a long way though!)

He's more wary of me than my wife... we give him nothing but love, but some horrible people in his past (he's a rescue) were not so nice so understandable he's not so trusting.

He does love to be stroked now though!

ljs,
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@Pineywoozle yes very much so! I have a total soft spot for cats, as you can imagine... all cringe/laddish stuff goes away and it's pure adoration

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