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lucid00, to fediverse
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A lot of people in the are saying that Threads joining is a form of "Embrace, extend, extinguish" and IMO I don't think that's the case.

There's no need for Meta to kill this network or absorb it.

ActivityPub by design favors big servers like Meta's, it also not being nomadic (like BlueSky cough) means that users can't easily jump ship from a server they don't like.

I already see the posts discussing leaving notable servers like Mastodon.social and it's silly IMO.

By design this whole network was built on shaky ground and when discussion of any Bluesky style improvements came up most users flipped out.

We'll be here again and again until those improvements come, if they ever come.

Reality is Meta knows they're king already and they don't need the regular users on the Fediverse.

IMO they want the WordPress profiles.
They want the illusion of freedom for celebrities and corporations.

"Host your own Facebook Page" basically.

I also lets them duck any regulatory oversight.

lucid00,
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Watch, I'm betting that for Meta is part 2.

An "open" data format they can use to get sites to integrate with their servers without signing up for an OAuth token or anything like that.

Facebook Connect used to be a big deal.
Major sites once let you comment on articles via Facebook only.

ActivityPub will let them pull that off again without the backlash of the past (no more "walled gardens").

I've already seen a few blogs that accept ActivityPub replies as comments.

Threads offering 130 million monthly active users puts Meta at the #1 spot for those comment sections now.

They could effectively ignore Mastodon, Friendica and the others and dominate by helping ActivityPub go more mainstream without making any changes or extensions to the spec.

Think about it, if ActivityPub becomes the HTML of the social web like the Mastodon community and as a whole dreamed of, Threads wins.

mauve, to random
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I think my philosophy when making software is that it should work for people with zero money or no bank account / credit card.

I know it's not a popular mindset to be in since money and profit is everything in the tech world.

I think it comes from growing up as a kid with no disposable income or access to anything but my shitty computer.

I'd rather support people with almost nothing than people with latest and greatest tech gizmos and spare cash for subscription services. 😅

lucid00,
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@mauve This is why I'm so interested in this stuff too.

Plus it allows our networks to be flexible in ways that don't require large scale infrastructure.
Like how many people I follow on SSB don't even have internet connections and are usually sailing on the ocean.

atomicpoet, (edited ) to internet
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is finally testing federation with "allow-listed servers".

They're finally taking the step of decentralization.

Many people will naysay this. But it's absolutely better that they move to decentralization than not do it.

https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture

lucid00,
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@ArtBear @atomicpoet the last line seems to refute this.

Looks more like they want to build a Google x AMP style relationship.
Your profiles and posts is the AMP server and the BGS is a Google-like service on top of it to save from having to worry about crashing servers and such.

lucid00,
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@atomicpoet I'm not sure "resource-demanding" means it can't run on a Raspberry Pi.

Nor does it sound necessary from the descriptions.

This all sounds like Google AMP .sxg for posts and BGS's are just relay servers (like Google is for AMP .sxg).

My only worry is how a private page would work, but nobody seems to really have this sorted out (except for maybe SSB and that comes with large tradeoffs).

lucid00,
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@atomicpoet does "not so much" mean "the code wouldn't run" or "the concept doesn't fit"?

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