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marcoow, 1 month ago

@fasterthanlime We need to draw the line between private and company tickets somewhere – I do agree the line can be a bit blurry in reality but this is what we decided on.

Also I’d argue our private tickets are still pretty cheap – need to subsidize those somehow

marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter First of all, @emberjs keeps enabling teams to stay focused on shipping value for their clients, and doing so for long – countless examples of teams that have been productive with Ember for years and sometimes decades speak a clear language, e.g. Intercom, or Auditboard.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs That said, Ember has a very clear niche in which it excels – dashboard-style, desktop-first productivity apps. There, Ember's relatively heavy weight doesn't matter, you actually need everything that ember-data provides, and things like SSR and SSG are largely irrelevant.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs I wrote about Ember's strengths and use cases vs. non-use cases in 2021 and everything I said then is still true today: https://mainmatter.com/blog/2021/03/12/ember.js-in-2021---a-beacon-of-productivity/

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs Yet, #emberjs does not excel in other areas: most importantly, Ember has no SSR or PE story comparable to what modern MPA/SPA frameworks like #remix or #sveltekit have to offer. That means for any ecommerce or similar use cases, Ember isn't a fit.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs Other problem areas of Ember are its outdated build tooling and the community losing momentum overall (both problems we try to address with the Embroider initiative btw – learn more and get on board here: http://mainmatter.com/embroider-initiative/)

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs,
Svelte on the other hand, in particular in combination with #sveltekit serves the areas that #emberjs doesn't – it's lightweight, has modern SSR/SSG capabilities, and PE. While I'm not sure we'd build dashboard-style, productivity apps with it (yet), it's perfect for ecommerce and similar use cases.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs We believe that #svelte's compiler approach also makes it future proof and sustainable more than other frameworks like e.g. React. Decoupling the authoring experience from the runtime code makes big breaking changes (e.g. #react's hooks) less likely.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs So we feel that #svelte is a great addition to our toolbox and look forward to taking an active role in the Svelte ecosystem in the future – just like we've had (and will continue to have) in the #emberjs ecosystem.

Our Svelte expert (and official Svelte ambassador)
@paoloricciuti is already busy speaking about #svelte wherever he can (check his sveltesummit talk: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pTgIx-ucMsY&t=10188s) and our Svelte team is only going to grow in the future.

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marcoow, 6 months ago

@mainmatter @emberjs @paoloricciuti If you're looking to get started with Svelte, join our workshop to get a jumpstart and check out http://mainmatter.com/svelte-consulting/ to see how we can help with Svelte beyond that.

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