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am i not missing anything from the higher priced ones besides apps and wifi ?

CHROME (google) is planing to implement DRM (kinda) into their browser (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don’t run a complaint browser ( cough…firefox )...

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chromium is just striped down chrome ,yeah its open source but google is the main contributor meaning the final decisions are up to them to accept or refuse ( or even force)

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yep just like some websites do with user agents

mr_right,
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not quite , this is way more serious than refusing to give extensions access to websites content. ( for those who don’t know that’s what manifest-v3 essentially do )

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i would happily explained why that is not the case here but i’m very tired so maybe tomorrow so i suggest reading that article if you are interested

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yep that’s basically it in a nut shell

mr_right,
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ouch that would be painful

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–>since everyone is confused about this i’m gonna try to explain as best as i could and also clearing some misconceptions:

1# why this is such a big deal ?

if this gets implemented AND it gets widely adopted websites now can refuse to give you content if you are running a non complied browser, remember those website that say “oh you are using an ad blocker so disable it to access our site” they can detect this by various methods but ultimately all of them rely on running a JavaScript into your browser. which you guessed it, its easy to modify and tamper with manually or using extensions

now what WEI-API does is that it can verify the integrity of the web page ( JavaScript/HTML/CSS has not been modified ) and even tell the website what extensions - ad blocker detected no content for you - you are using and what browser you are using - firefox or brave detected no content for you - and do not be fooled into thinking that this can be spoofed. and website owners who think that they are running a business not a charity will implement this.

2#will using firefox save me?

if this gets widely adopted and you inevitably encounter a website that require this ( for your job ,school or your bank ) you have no choice but to use chrome just like when your banking apps refuse to work because your phone is rooted which means that SAFETY-NET is broken

3#why this is a threat to begin with?

this is only viable if the web adopt it so why bother?, well guess what google is famous for making its services very easy to integrate and well documented just look on how easy it is to integrate google analytics and google adsense* into websites and how many of them use it in the internet.

4#what can we do to prevent this?

this is my personal opinion but i think we simply can’t, this not like the reddit incident were very large portion of the user base was upset most people don’t know/care/give-a-fuck about web technologies and how they work.

Finally “but google said they don’t plan to use this to fingerprint you (Device ID) or track your browser history or interfere with the work of extensions”

do you really believe that a company like google whose bread and butter is advertising would not make it easier for themselves, a company who has been exposed time and time again for lying and having ulterior motives ( you don’t need to look far just look into what manifest-v3 did )

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nice 👌

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i just want to point out that the claims in this article are from Netflix ,so take them with a grain of salt

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i totally agree that YouTube is mind cancer for kids. it is like cigarettes it’s damaging to the brain and kids should not consume it until they are older and even then one shall not consume it at all from the start for his own good

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that’s another way to look at it

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let me bring you up to speed a couple days ago YouTube legal team threatened invidious devs saying they are abusing their API ToS ( trems of service ) which the devs said that the claim does not hold any truth to it since invidious is just youtube proxy\scraper and does not depend on API

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add mpv+youtube-dl to thr mix and you get a full healthy dinner

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you do you if you use it that much and you think it’s worth your money then good for you ( i honestly mean it ) we don’t like youtube ads, YES that is true but it is not the only reason :

  • some of us hate youtube ( and google by extent ) for tracking
  • some of us hate youtube because it’s algorithms tricking us into forcing certain agendas and ideals upon us
  • some of us hate youtube because the hypocrisy around how they treat content creator differently yet claiming they are all under the same “rules”

the list goes on but what i want to say is that we don’t hate people who pay for youtube we hate those who defend the platform like it’s a white knight and nothing shady happening in it

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