China has announced some policies designed to shore up its ailing property sector after the latest data showed housing prices slumped nearly 10% since the start of the year....
Not surprising. The fallout in China will be far worse than when something similar happened in the USA. For most regular Chinese retail investors, they invest in real estate. Instead of putting money in a 401k or IRA, or even buying stocks, many there buy homes/apartments on speculative markets. It was one of the big drivers for the explosive growth in their house building market.
If it helps, you can think of it as an enhancement to keep people in prison longer or paying more fines, but when the result is poor people are in prison when rich people would not be for the same offense, not having debtors’ prisons is a semantic distinction without a meaningful difference.
First, I acknowledge that the justice system is drastically weighted in favor of the rich with the poor disproportionately affected by interaction with, navigating through it, and in drastic need of reform. However, that is decidedly different than criminalizing the poor. Not all poor people have interactions with law enforcement or the justice system for them to be impacted by this.
If the OP wanted to address the imbalanced justice system, they should have said that instead. Its a legitimate criticism! Simply saying that being poor is a criminal offense isn’t true, and dilutes from the otherwise important message.
I read your link. I wonder if you did. Your ACLU link even details how the jail time happens, and its not from holding a debt. Its from committing a crime.
“Over 40 states across the country suspend driver’s licenses for outstanding court debts, a practice that disproportionately harms low-income people.** Driving with a suspended license carries a penalty of between two days and six months**.”
Those people would not be in jail if they did not have debt.
If you’re using your ACLU example, the debt did not cause them to be in jail. It absolutely complicated their lives and made the choice to break the law a calculated risk to continue to keep their job or get their kids to school, but again that’s a justice system problem not criminalizing being poor.
You’re making too many logic leaps to try and make the OP statement true. You’re going to lose the audience you want to convince about the other very true issues in the post (homelessness and drugs) when you’re throwing in half-true at best.
Like I get that the ACLU could have capitalized that, bolded it, and stuck it at the top of the page, but you only have to make it to like the second paragraph to read it.
Oh I read that too, and again you’re making an additional logical leap with your idea that isn’t always true.
In many cases, the debtors were unaware they were sued or had not received notice to show up in court. Tens of thousands of these warrants are issued annually.
They aren’t sent to jail for having debt. They (could possibly) be sent to jail for failing to appear in court. You keep saying we “literally have debtors prisons”, but at best we might have effectively debtors prisons and I’m squinting really hard and giving you every benefit of the doubt to even say that.
If debt was illegal (as the OP post claims), everyone not paying debt would be in prison. That simply isn’t true. Presenting it like it is reality makes you come off as a crackpot, dismissable, and your otherwise important message is lost.
Edited to add – thanks for this. I haven’t had a pointless argument on the internet with someone who already mostly agrees on the important points but can’t quite get past pointless minutiae in awhile.
I wish I could say its been a while since I’ve had a conversation with someone on the internet that has a good overall message, but is so urgent to make an additional point for rhetorical value that they de-value their entire message. If you want to change minds, which ostensibly is the reason for organizing around the problem, you have to look at your own messages through the eyes of others, not just your own. Good luck!
Weird, because I feel like you’re jumping past the point because it isn’t technically spelled out in the USC that someone will arrest you if you don’t make enough money.
I think its very weird you’re willing to jump past the fact its not illegal to call it illegal when the OP post is putting in context with two other things which are unequivocally illegal. Putting all three together is creating a false equivalency.
If someone sues you civilly, you receive no notice of it, and then they arrest you and put you in prison, I get that there are intervening steps, but it’s literally the same result.
IF you have a debt and…
IF the creditor chooses to sue and…
IF you do not get notified and…
IF you don’t appear…
THEN MAYBE the judge will have an arrest warrant issued against you and …
If you commit an ADDITIONAL crime, which puts you in contact with law enforcement, the warrant from the no-show would cause you to be jailed.
Thats A LOT of “if” to make your statement true, but you’re passing it off as its always the case. Complete different with drugs and homelessness. You can be arrested (and jailed) in the very first act.
Being in debt doesn’t put you in jail which is what your statement should mean happens. We have literally tens of millions of people in debt and millions of them are poor that are walking the streets without warrants against them.
I also don’t think the OP is trying to change anyone’s mind. I’m not either. The point of these types of posts isn’t to change minds.
Hmm, okay you’re not interested in changing minds of others. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, but does that mean this just food for an echo chamber then?
It’s to overcome the apathy of the majority of people who already know it’s wrong to do this and use that majority to forcibly remove power from those people whose minds you want to change.
So you want to change the mind of someone that is neutral on the subject to being supporting of different policy? How is that not changing someone’s mind? Are we now arguing what the definition of “changing a mind” means now?
Blue MAGA is a subculture of the DNC whose purpose is to bully and marginalize anyone who critiques the Dem party leadership.
What is it called when people make up a name for a group of people and assign motivations to them even though the people doing the naming are massively exaggerating, or seeing a few outliers and painting them as the norm for everyone they disagree with they disagree with?
And what a dumb thing for Tesla to lie about. According to Motortrend’s own tests, Cybertruck would beat the Porsche without towing the other Porsche every time, but that wasn’t enough for Elon. Tesla could have even just chosen a lighter car to tow and it would have been an impressive feat, but no, the lie instead.
I’m getting old. Google keeps changing their touchless pay system and app. I got tired of switching after the third version of whatever Google is calling it now and gave up. Google pay, no Android pay, no Google wallet!
Google Next this year was the same thing. AI everything everywhere. I get that AI is the “new hotness” but there’s still other tech and solutions needed and existing that needed some limelight too.
“You painted the chair too?! I hate that chair! There’s no way in hell I’m going to be immortalized in a painting forever with it. Paint over it so its gone from the painting. What do you mean ‘it will look weird’? I’m paying you. Just do it.”
There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.
Isn’t there already legal definitions such as gross vehicle weight? I know there have been some edge cases where people argue cars as trucks to get special truck access for commercial use. Chevy HHR comes to mind with some contractors.
I’m not understanding your idea. Why would it be harder for the US to replace tech talent? We’re not restricted to just hiring US nationals. The green card queue is decades long. Ask any H1-B visa holder you know their ‘priority date’ for green card consideration. They’ll be able to tell you immediately.
Dyson gets shit on frequently for being overpriced, but the audible analysis they do one some of their products is crazy complex. Some years ago I watched 30 minute video on the design they did for the hair dryer where they were designing minute angles in the fins of the air impeller, and using a PWM algorithm to measure backpressure in a feed back loop to spin up the fan where it wouldn’t create loud noise while also increasing the volume of air moved. They tuned the mechanisms specifically to shave off tiny peaks in oscilloscope readings.
One thing I remember is that they said they couldn’t entirely eliminate the specific annoying sound frequencies because it had to ramp, but what they did is ramp to right below the annoying sound frequency level, then hold, then burst above the annoying frequency band very quickly. So the operator of the unit doesn’t hear the annoying sound because the device shoots past it so fast.
I’ve never heard of any company be that picky and put so much effort into avoiding one negative experience of a product.
The number of buyers in the U.S. considering an electric vehicle purchase in 2024 has fallen from a year ago due to a shortage of affordable cars, inadequate charging infrastructure and ignorance about EV benefits, a study by J.D. Power, opens new tab has shown....
I can’t not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.
Are you working 100+ miles away from home? On a 300 mile per useful charge battery, you temporarily lose about 20% usefulness to extreme cold, that still leaves you with 270 total range. So assuming you work 100 miles away, and do zero charging at work, you’d still have 170 miles of range to get back home in the cold.
If you can charge at work, this becomes even easier.
Maybe at -40 degrees if you leave your car outside in the weather. Granted I park my EV in my garage and the coldest its been since I’ve owned it has been maybe -10 degrees F (-24 degrees C).
So 20% capacity loss due to age
20% from age you’d only see after 12 or more years. If you’re charging at home instead of DC fast charging it will likely be less degradation that that even.
The Israeli military said Thursday that five soldiers were killed and seven injured in a friendly fire incident in northern Gaza, amid renewed battles in the area against regrouped Hamas militants....
Do we know the number of IDF soldiers involved in total to arrive at the friendly fire casualties? Are we approaching more Israeli deaths from Friendly Fired than from Israeli citizens that were victims of Hamas in the original incursion on Oct 6th?
“Nearly a fifth of Israeli fatalities since the invasion of Gaza in late October were caused by friendly fire or accidents, accounting for 36 of the 188 soldiers killed at the time of the report. Experts say it’s one of the highest such percentages in recent military history.”
China tries drastic measures to boost ailing property sector (www.dw.com)
China has announced some policies designed to shore up its ailing property sector after the latest data showed housing prices slumped nearly 10% since the start of the year....
Long life uh.... finds a way (lemmy.world)
Decriminalize Life (lemmy.world)
ENDLESS Legend is Currently Free to Claim on Steam (store.steampowered.com)
Offer ends on May 23rd.
That Blue MAGA outreach... (lemmy.world)
Horrible voter outreach.
Rematch! Tesla Cybertruck vs. Porsche 911 Drag Race! (This Time It’s Not Rigged) (www.motortrend.com)
TL;DR: Porsche 911 wins everything, even the 1/8th mile… even the slowest Porsche 911 they could find....
It could soon be illegal to publicly wear a mask for health reasons in North Carolina (arstechnica.com)
Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards (www.cnet.com)
Google I/O was an AI evolution, not a revolution | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
So....? (lemmy.world)
Maine Cybertruck Owner Sad Everyone Hates His Truck (jalopnik.com)
Microsoft offers to relocate nearly 10% of China-based staffers to the US or allied nations — AI and cloud engineering exodus from China begins (www.tomshardware.com)
Hearing is be-leafing: Students invent quieter leaf blower (hub.jhu.edu)
Fewer people in the US plan to buy EVs this year, study shows (www.reuters.com)
The number of buyers in the U.S. considering an electric vehicle purchase in 2024 has fallen from a year ago due to a shortage of affordable cars, inadequate charging infrastructure and ignorance about EV benefits, a study by J.D. Power, opens new tab has shown....
5 Israeli soldiers killed by friendly fire in northern Gaza (www.nbcnews.com)
The Israeli military said Thursday that five soldiers were killed and seven injured in a friendly fire incident in northern Gaza, amid renewed battles in the area against regrouped Hamas militants....
you got the wrong number (lemmy.world)