retronautickz

@retronautickz@beehaw.org

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retronautickz,

I don't know if there's a site like that, but there are tools for looking at defederation and federation of a given instance:

1- In the main page of each instance there should be an "about" or "info" button that should contain a part with the list of blocked and limited instances. There could also be a "federation" or "instance" button.

(although I think that I page that collects and gives easier access to these list would be a great resource to have)

2- You can search #/Fediblock. There instance admins/mods (and also common users) from different instances and softwares of the fediverse publish news of defederation and blocking/muting and advise other instance admins/mods and common users to do the same.

retronautickz, (edited )

Beehaw's registration process is quite easy, asking you only to write a few words on why you want to join (which could just be "it seems like a nice instance"), in comparison to other registration processes I've seen and done.

I've been through registration process where to guarantee that you've read the rules and anything required would hide words in the post containing that essential content and then asked you questions of which the answers where those words. Sometimes with the addition on asking you why you wanted to join.

This (Beehaw's registration process) is nothing in comparison

retronautickz,

They're so accustomed to centralised social media that allows them to troll and bait without caring for the people in those platforms, that, when, they find instances here, like Beehaw, that do not want to have contact with people and instances that promote that type of attitude, they feel confused and betrayed.

They expected the fediverse, Lemmy, Beehaw to be a replacement for Reddit, not only as content/link/information aggregation platform, but as a place to continue acting like they acted on Reddit with no consideration or understanding that they aren't in Reddit anymore.

The fact that many are calling Beehaw admin/mod team "snobby" "snowflakes", etc just says it all

retronautickz,

Honestly. Zero self-awareness.

retronautickz,

That wouldn't be a bad idea for the moment. But images like this show that these people really don't understand how the fediverse work. They would die of shock if they ever saw how long (way longer than Beehaws) the list of defederated servers is in the mastodon instance I'm in

retronautickz,

Beehaw isn't the first nor the last server on the fediverse to ask people to submit a sentence or two explaining why you want to join.

Thematic instances and instances aim to marginalized groups tend to be picky to protect their users and/or keep the instance "on topic"

retronautickz,

Regulation of user registration and defederation are key to the fediverse, not against its purpose.

The purpose of the fediverse isn't to be a replacement for any centralised social media, it's to be a safe alternative free of corporations and bad actors (who are isolated in their own servers). If you just wanted a Reddit 2.0 maybe a centralised alternative would have been better for you.

What would you do if your instance gets defederated?

I'm just curious, since I tend to get attached to my accounts but I also like having access to all information so I don't want to use a defederated instance. If, say, kbin got overrun by bad actors and was defederated by everyone else, is the only option to jump ship? Unfortunately I don't have the capability to selfhost or I...

retronautickz,

If your instance gets universally defederated, yes I would suggest to change instances as soon at possible because that level of defederation only happens in extreme circumstances.

For now, you'll need to create another account on a different server form scratch as migration is not possible yet in in kbin and lemmy.

retronautickz,

It's not the responsibility of one instance to get the threadiverse into a "self-sustaining population"

Specially when say community is:

• Comprised mostly of marginalized people.

• not completely open to registration, but requires your solicitation to register to be approved by an admin/mod

• choosing quality over quantity, and has no intention to grow so much or to become a Reddit replacement.

There are more than 300 instances on Lemmy alone (to that you have to add the kbin instances, of which I don't know the number)

The problem here, and what really is stopping any kind of growth, is the lack of distribution. People are going to the same 5 communities and expecting them to be responsible for all the content creation (by hosting communities/magazines), when part of federation is the ability for every instance to have their own community for a topic.

retronautickz,

I think you're mixing up the people that take part on thread of communities hosted on Beehaw (who belong to hundreds of servers, both in and outside of Lemmy, not only to Beehaw) and the registered members of Beehaw as an instance. I'm talking about users registered at Beehaw.

Beehaw has the largest communities because people aren't creating communities on their instances, instead recurring to Beehaw-based communities. But there's a difference between participating in Beehaw-hosted communities and being part of Beehaw as a instance, a register user of Beehaw. This is not the responsibility of Beehaw, which is closed to new community creation. Federated social media is made by its users and here users have the opportunity, the possibility, and the ability to diversify Lemmy and the bigger fediverse by creating communities in other instances and participating in the communities that already exist in other instances.

Beehaw as a instance aims to be a nice and safe space, and as such attracts marginalised people to register into it. Yes, there are people that are registering in Beehaw without even reading what the instances is about, only because it's a big instances. These are the people that are now "feeling betrayed" or "unable to understand" why Beehaw is defederating from instances that allow trolling. They chose a community that wasn't the best for them, but I don't put them as fault because, just like it happened with the twitter migration, people are being suggested the larger instances and aren't being explained that being on a smaller instance also allows you to federate, sometimes way better than in larger ones that are often blocked/muted/defederated by small(er) instances for simply getting too large.

retronautickz,

Yes. This.

Maybe it's because I have experience in the fediverse but I specifically searched for an instance like beehaw, joined knowing what they were about and what kind of behaviour they allowed and which they didn't allow, and expected them to follow through and respect their own rules and guideline.

I'm not disappointed nor I'm surprised. This is what I signed for and how I expected the admins to conduce themselves and the instance.

I choose the fediverse over centralised social media owned by corporations and billionaires because instances with administrations like Beehaw's, that do not accept nor promote shitty behaviour) exist here. Because here it's easier to avoid people who only want to troll or cause controversy than it is in sites like Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc that facilitate that kind of negative interaction.

retronautickz,

Funny the thing about the whole short essay thing, because I basically only wrote "I wanna try Lemmy and I want an active instance where I can be active in"

Beehaw didn't left the fediverse, it defederated from two Lemmy instances over the more than 20000 that exist in all the fediverse. The number of instances that Beehaw defederates from (which, of course, is bigger than two, as there are intances that are globally defederated) is tiny in comparison with the size of the whole ActibityPub -based fediverse.

Make sure you understand how the fediverse work before resorting to lying.

retronautickz,

1- You mean something along the lines of Hubzilla's nomadic identities? or how?

Nomadic Identity: The ability to authenticate and easily migrate an identity across independent hubs and web domains. Nomadic identity provides true ownership of an online identity, because the identities of the channels controlled by an account on a hub are not tied to the hub itself. A hub is more like a "host" for channels. With Hubzilla, you don't have an "account" on a server like you do on typical websites; you own an identity that you can take with you across the grid by using clones. Channels can have clones associated with separate and otherwise unrelated accounts on independent hubs. Communications shared with a channel are synchronized among the channel clones, allowing a channel to send and receive messages and access shared content from multiple hubs. This provides resilience against network and hardware failures, which can be a significant problem for self-hosted or limited-resource web servers. Cloning allows you to completely move a channel from one hub to another, taking your data and connections with you.

2- This is a good Idea. But I'm not sure how posible it is as of now

retronautickz, (edited )

I've never used Hubzilla or its cousin project friendica. But I know nomadic identity is a unique feature of the former.

For what I've read, it allows you to keep your friends and content that are also hosted on hubzilla, but any person from another platform you follow would be lost (you'll have to re-follow) if you move instances through nomadic identity.

Putting a hypothetical lemmy nomadic identity as an example, If you move from a lemmy intance to another using clones, any community you subscribe to that's based on lemmy will remain, but any kbin magazine you subscribe to would have to be re-subscribed

retronautickz,

You don't need to make accounts on many instances.

retronautickz,

An instance closing is not as common as you think it is. And a good way for it not to happen is to not "saturate" the same three intances by registering only in them and chose smaller instances instead. Or, if you have the time and ability, create your own instance.

Many of the instances that close do so because they become too big for the admins to handle.

retronautickz,

Beehaw did nothing that isn't common in the fediverse. I know people that are new to all this may be shocked by Beehaw's decision, but defederating from intances that promote intolerant discourses or allow trolling is the way to keep an instance alive. People will end up suspecting and defederating from an instance that interacts with intances that allow or promote that type of content or behaviour.

retronautickz,

Then there should be more threads to make newcommers aware of this thing. That (to avoid relatively large intances) is one of the first things I learn when I had my first account on mastodon around 2018. It's common knowledge in other platforms and something that was explained to twitter refugees that came to mastodon and other microblogging fediverse project last year.

you don't have to join big intances to interact with the fediverse. Sometimes smaller intances have better and bigger federation than larger ones, which are often defederated from many instances over their problems moderating their users

retronautickz,

Eh?

retronautickz,

The white text on yellow background is hard to read.

I would suggest to change the yellow parts of the light theme to another colour, like brown or dark gold/mustard

Are rat posts ok? (reddthat.com)

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retronautickz,

Not only are rat post ok, they're expected and even encouraged.

weirdwriter, to literature

@literature how do you find new books to read? For me, it’s YouTube channels, blogs like lovely Audiobooks, the Libro FM blog and the Audible blog. I listen to audiobooks

retronautickz,

I look up books on some topic I'm interested at the moment (Nowadays I'm reading a lot about classical composers), or a genre or some author. I search for an audiobook on youtube (I've listened to a lot of audiobooks there) or if there's any pdf/similar format of the book I can download.

I also look at what people in the fandoms I'm in like and take a look at these books/book series/comics/manga/etc

retronautickz,

A correction, kbin.social isn't a Lemmy instance, it's a a kbin instance. Kbin is a different, but similar, platform from Lemmy (that's able to federate with it, just like other platforms using ActivityPub do).

retronautickz,

I knew the Xmen were behind all this...

/s

retronautickz,

I don't think peertube could ever be a replacement to youtube, at least not to the "new" youtube which main goal is commercial content creation. Peertube cannot pay the content creators the way youtube does, because, for ones, it doesn't make any money from adds nor is owned by a corporation.

What peertube can aim to, is to be like the older youtube/dailymotion/etc were people posted videos of the things they liked, without monetisation or influencers. Because it will never fully attract influencers.

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